Any VST like Virus TI !?

[tasty tatsyn]

lol i don't know lets do it in peace ... i think he pushed filter env amount too much to begin with in the virus but he was trying hard to make virus sound better.... i didn't agree when he said it did sound better then sylenth... not to my ears.... but this comes down to personal preferences

i got sylenth years ago... and like i've said then wanted omnisphere..., .... and so on.... never got enough on the side to get a virus.. maybe someday if they still make them haha

[tasty tatsyn]

Like many other synths, the Virus TI has it's own unique sound and capabilities. What I like most about the Virus are the wavetable oscillators, which are extremely crispy, even on lery low octaves, and the internal effects, which are really, really good. It also has a very logical and super quick to use structure.

It does what it does really well (and that's not just trancy superhypermegasaws).

However, other synths do other things really well. The Virus TI could never do the things Zebra or Bazille can do. If I'd have to choose between a Virus TI and Zebra, I'd choose Zebra every time, even if the Virus does a few things better than Zebra.

agreed... i didn't pick up zebra but other (multiple) options

I'm bored... going to try to make that Pluck on Icarus

[Terrafractyl]

I sometimes miss my Virus TI (sold mine about 5 years ago). Zebra and Reaktor completely replaced it for me. (and some other things)

But I agree with NerdmcBoon,
For me, It was all about the Wavetables, and even more so the fx sections. That is where all the magic happened in my opinion.
The Delay, Chorus, phaser and some of the other bits in there are just brilliant.

To me the filters were always a little meh (after so much hype from my friends) and the Oscs, when not doing fancy wavetable stuff actually sounded really bad in my opinion. but yeah it was also just having that-many-options in a well-designed, easy to navigate package.
I kept thinking I would replace my TI with a snow one day, but I think that day may now have passed....

[Zexila]

It would be great to have archived highlight arguments of Virus vs the world threads for future ones, would save few pages at least.

[recursive one]

we can start a new INTERNET FIGHT! and ask recursiveone to try to pull off that pluck sound XD he does have a virus too

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I may try to recreate this exact Sylenth pluck form the vid, but I doubt I'll get any closer than this guy. Why is Sylenth is popular? Because it has its own character. Why is Virus so popular? Because of the very same thing. They are different sounding synths. What is more, many trance pluck patches in Virus don't use hypersaw but rely on global unison over VA or WT oscillator or a mix of them - the kind of architecture which is impossible to recreate in Sylenth (like you can't stack 4 detuned saw oscillators in one instance of Virus). And let's not forget that this detune/supersaw/trance pluck thing is only a small part of what Virus can do, getting a Virus ony for this is an overkill, Sylenth and Spire do this at least just as good.

@ Terrafractyl. I know your music well and I know that you use Zebra (I've read this on your site). I see how it can be a great choice for your quirky/jazzy psy, I'm doing a bit more agressive sounding full-on/prog, for me Zebra doesn't cut it.

[4damind]

There comes also ImageLine Harmor to my mind. I saw that Astrix (one of the top Psytrance/Full-On artists) is using this synth very often. I would not say it sounds like the Virus, it's a completely different polished and more smooth/analog sounding synth but it has some great features eg. to create pluck sounds with a dedicated knob (some combination of filter/filter envelope).
But IMO people don't try to replace the Virus with plugins, they use a lot stuff together with the Virus.
There is also Nexus, used by a lot of guys (eg. Astral Projection) but this is of course a bit different synth because it's based on samples. It's also no secret that some of this guys are completely ITB now and don't using any hardware synth. I don't think you can tell the difference in the finished tracks.

[recursive one]

Nexus, used by ... Astral Projection

[4damind]

Nexus, used by ... Astral Projection

Nexus, the synth (ReFX)

[recursive one]

The only connection between AP and Nexus I'm aware of is their track "Nexus" released in 2002, afaik they didn't do much new production since then (maybe two or three EPs, iirc), even if/when they did I highly doubt they would use a SW rompler given their experience with hardware workflow.

[4damind]

The only connection between AP and Nexus I'm aware of is their track "Nexus" released in 2002, afaik they didn't do much new production since then (maybe two or three EPs, iirc), even if/when they did I highly doubt they would use a SW rompler given their experience with hardware workflow.

I saw the Nexus on their laptop while they performing a DJ/Live Set.
They making more remixes, the latest album is Afaik from 2014 "Goa Classics remixed".
Anyway, I know the guy how remixed a track for AP (also released on their album Open Society) and he got the complete original project files. Only plugins. It's seems they stopped using hardware since some time.

[recursive one]

I see, you clearly know more than me. I'm reluctant to using romplers myself, but well, whatever works.

Great track, btw, shows that SW/HW choice doesn't matter much

[4damind]

I see, you clearly know more than me. I'm reluctant to using romplers myself, but well, whatever works.

Great track, btw, shows that SW/HW choice doesn't matter much

I will only say... having the hardware synth and using it are 2 different things
IMO there is a lot of actual stuff which is completely made ITB for some reasons. Many of this guys travelling around the world and they having not so much time sitting in the studio and making new tracks. Many of this stuff is made on laptops in the hotelroom/plane etc and later finished in the studio.
Avi (Astrix) showed us his black HON membership card of Lufthansa... something you get Afaik for about 600.000 miles/years. If I remember correctly he had 1 Mio miles. Only to put this in the right relationship, that this psytrance guys making a lot of money.. yes... but not if sitting in the studio

[goldenanalog]

Bump (I hope that no one minds -)

Spire 1.1.8 just kills me - sounds so good - but I still like my Access Virus -

I personally don't use the TI on it - all midi in/analog outs, here.

Regardless: I'm keeping mine.

Maybe it's sorta like an old German car, except that it doesn't take up as much room. It's cool, and still sounds really good to me.

I hope that Access doesn't go away - the Virus forever! If they can't hang in there, hardware-wise: maybe they could do something like create a UI box that hooks up to a computer, where the computer runs ported Virus code -

I wish them many more years.

[tripleflows]

There is only one sw synth I know that has so much modulation destinations that Access Virus b/c had, and this is Spire where you can modulate nearly all parameters. Falcon, HALion, Retrologue 2, NI Massive and the upcoming VPS Avenger are still very capable in this regard and that does count a lot...

Add the unique fx section, the multi-timbral engine of Virus and we can still safely regard it as a timeless classic!

[inye]

Try Vengeance Avenger. I've read that it has a lot of the access viruses features (it's semi modular, has wavetables, has supersaw, has multimode filter with some distortion types,
has granular synthesis, has drumkit has fully routable arpeggiator and envelopes and a sample library, and you can even import your own samples and use the granular synthesis or even the supersaw (even combined if you want) also on the imported samples.