Is Sylenth still relevant in 2016?

[Elektronisch]

Does envelope count as filter modulation?

If its modulated by it then yes. But i was targeting filter sweeps thing

[Zexila]

[recursive one]

Does envelope count as filter modulation?

If its modulated by it then yes. But i was targeting filter sweeps thing

In any event, in psytrance 50% sounds are based on filter modulation in this or that form.

[Elektronisch]

Does envelope count as filter modulation?

If its modulated by it then yes. But i was targeting filter sweeps thing

In any event, in psytrance 50% sounds are based on filter modulation in this or that form.

Ok then another genre to add.

[fluffy_little_something]

Unless your girls butt is tiny in a row when other 23 are like tanks....

You people are so superficial, you must be talking about Internet friendships You shouldn't tell your gf or wife that you would not recognize her bottom, she might be insulted

[S0lo]

Sylenth1 for me is THE synth. The one that got it all just right. Not too simple, not too complex. Jaw drop sound bank (full version comes with much more BTW). Unreal CPU usage, almost puts it to sleep. It stood the test of time. So usable, and playable. Soundbanks available for it everywhere. Magazines still do tutorials with it.

Don't get me wrong, There are many things it can't do, But it's just so great at what it can do.

[recursive one]

Does envelope count as filter modulation?

If its modulated by it then yes. But i was targeting filter sweeps thing

In any event, in psytrance 50% sounds are based on filter modulation in this or that form.

Ok then another genre to add.

Too much provisos for the statement that filter modulation is irrelevant to real world.

[Zexila]

There are many things it can't do, But it's just so great at what it can do.

Nicely said.

[recursive one]

Unless your girls butt is tiny in a row when other 23 are like tanks....

You people are so superficial, you must be talking about Internet friendships You shouldn't tell your gf or wife that you would not recognize her bottom, she might be insulted

Which one of them I shouldn't tell it?

[Dasheesh]

The metallic thin one.

https://soundcloud.com/jeremy-me/one-banana

[chk071]

[wagtunes]

The metallic thin one.

https://soundcloud.com/jeremy-me/one-banana

Sounds pretty good to me.

[andrelafosse]

Wag, I appreciate where you're coming from, and I dig a lot of your sound design. But I really don't get the point of your "name the synth" example (and yes, I listened to the whole thing.)

Sure, there are a lot of instruments that can cover a lot of the same ground. The bass sounds were all solid enough, but they all struck me as pretty generic, bread-and-butter sounds, even though some tones varied wildly from one another. Is your point that a lot of commonly-used sounds can be passably made by a lot of different synths? Ok, sure. Agreed.

Now: a comparison of several different synths, playing the same basic patch, with the same oscillator waveforms, using the same filter type/cutoff/modulation/resonance and envelope settings, all level-matched with one another... THAT would be a much more relevant (in my opinion) comparison, particularly if it was changing synths on one part in an otherwise identical arrangement with lots of sounds happening simultaneously.

But I don't know that there's a whole lot of point in doing that, either.

You know, a lot of music making is ultimately very selfish on the part of those of us making it. There are a lot of subtleties that "most listeners" aren't going to consciously notice, whether it's the resonance behavior on a 24 dB lowpass filter, or the four-part voice leading that gets us to our Neapolitan sixth chord.

I can get a Hendrixy type of guitar tone on a $100 Strat-style knockoff, and some people won't notice a difference between that and a $10,000 boutique instrument doing the same tone. Does that mean that any distinctions between the two are irrelevant?

Just thinking out loud, here...

Totally dug the Softube Modular clips you posted recently, BTW.

[andrelafosse]

Along these lines: a really fine and entertaining podcast about expectation bias in audio engineering and production -

https://soundcloud.com/themasteringshow/18-new-ears

[wagtunes]

Wag, I appreciate where you're coming from, and I dig a lot of your sound design. But I really don't get the point of your "name the synth" example (and yes, I listened to the whole thing.)

Sure, there are a lot of instruments that can cover a lot of the same ground. The bass sounds were all solid enough, but they all struck me as pretty generic, bread-and-butter sounds, even though some tones varied wildly from one another. Is your point that a lot of commonly-used sounds can be passably made by a lot of different synths? Ok, sure. Agreed.

Now: a comparison of several different synths, playing the same basic patch, with the same oscillator waveforms, using the same filter type/cutoff/modulation/resonance and envelope settings, all level-matched with one another... THAT would be a much more relevant (in my opinion) comparison, particularly if it was changing synths on one part in an otherwise identical arrangement with lots of sounds happening simultaneously.

But I don't know that there's a whole lot of point in doing that, either.

You know, a lot of music making is ultimately very selfish on the part of those of us making it. There are a lot of subtleties that "most listeners" aren't going to consciously notice, whether it's the resonance behavior on a 24 dB lowpass filter, or the four-part voice leading that gets us to our Neapolitan sixth chord.

I can get a Hendrixy type of guitar tone on a $100 Strat-style knockoff, and some people won't notice a difference between that and a $10,000 boutique instrument doing the same tone. Does that mean that any distinctions between the two are irrelevant?

Just thinking out loud, here...

Totally dug the Softube Modular clips you posted recently, BTW.

Where I'm coming from is essentially just a response to the "This is the only synth that will do this, nothing sounds like it, I can pick it out of a mix in a second" crowd. I read all of these, what I consider, very narrow minded and biased posts about synth sounds and it makes me laugh because, like I've pointed out, most times you can't tell what synth is actually being played.

I can make good music with anything. If I never bought another synth again, I could still make good music. That's if I had any talent for making music. That's another issue. But this whole "Diva is my go to synth for bass" or whatever, I just find perplexing because, relatively speaking, there are maybe a handful of synths that absolutely sound nothing like anything else and can't be replaced.

That's all I'm saying. Nothing more, nothing less.