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pdxindy wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
pdxindy wrote: Sorry to focus on this still... but maybe expand your skill range some? If you are making basically the same preset pack for every synth... all you need one 1 new one which can then be made for all the synths you create sounds for. This seems inevitable, since even if you find 1, 2, or 3 more obscure synths, you are clearly running out and fast.

Also, there are so many soundsets for specific dance music genres... most of which I find uninteresting. I think there is still plenty of room for other stuff... instrument sounds, etc
This is essentially true. Pretty much every synth I make a set for is one and done with the exception of those mega synths like Falcon and Omnisphere where you can never run out of ideas. And once Softube Modular comes out with more modules, that's another one. I created 250 patches just with the ones available now. I can't even imagine what I can do with more options for that thing.

Learning a new skill set? Yeah, probably should. But that means learning a new genre of music. I'm referring to the EDM crowd. All this wub, wub, dubstep stuff that seems to make up most of the commercial synths out there is a genre that i just don't feel. I'd essentially be going to YouTube, watching videos on how to make XYZ patch and then just copying it. The time it would take me to truly learn this genre and related genres would be immense, especially at my age having been stuck in the 60s, 70s and 80s for the last 40 to 50 years. You don't just "learn" a new skill set. It takes time and incredible dedication to do it right. Having a business to run, I don't have the luxury of spending countless hours learning how to make wub wub sounds. I need to spend my time doing things that put food on the table.

Besides, with the saturated market of these sounds, how do I compete against the established designers who specialize in this stuff?

So while in theory it sounds great, in practical application, it's just not practical.
I was suggesting specifically NOT those dance oriented genres... 1 soundset does not come close to covering everything that isn't that stuff. the 60's 70's and 80's is rather broad... plus pads, cinematic, ambient, percussive and instrumental type stuff... etc.

Anyway, practically speaking, you have run out of synths, so I think you have no choice... sooner or later you have to diversify
That much is obvious. Coming up with "new" ideas for synths I've already done, easier said than done.

Fortunately, I have enough to get me through 2016. I'll worry about 2017 when the time comes. And who knows, by then there may be more new synths coming out like we've had recently.

We never seem to run out of them.

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How about a drum synth?

Drumatic 4 has lots of potential and (for EUR standards) is pretty cheap.

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alvfaria wrote:How about a drum synth?

Drumatic 4 has lots of potential and (for EUR standards) is pretty cheap.
Not interested in drum synths.

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wagtunes wrote:
Guenon wrote:FAW Circle 2 has been mentioned (a couple of times?), it's not on your rejected lists and you haven't yet said you've checked it out - it's a strong candidate, imo :)
Thanks. I just went to download the demo and you have to sign up to a mailing list to get the demo link. Sorry, I don't appreciate having to jump through hoops to get a demo. Plus, those lists are impossible to get off of and I'm already bombarded with spam.

So I'll be adding Circle 2 to the rejected list.

Why do companies make things difficult for prospective customers?
You can download it from Pluginboutique without having to sign up. Don't reject it just yet.

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macmuse wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
Guenon wrote:FAW Circle 2 has been mentioned (a couple of times?), it's not on your rejected lists and you haven't yet said you've checked it out - it's a strong candidate, imo :)
Thanks. I just went to download the demo and you have to sign up to a mailing list to get the demo link. Sorry, I don't appreciate having to jump through hoops to get a demo. Plus, those lists are impossible to get off of and I'm already bombarded with spam.

So I'll be adding Circle 2 to the rejected list.

Why do companies make things difficult for prospective customers?
You can download it from Pluginboutique without having to sign up. Don't reject it just yet.
I did download, tested and put it on the list anyway.

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maybe its time you started fiddling with some real knobs my friend :)

nothing can really compare , even if the kids on their pc's say otherwise

here are a couple of synths i have already got off of e-bay

http://www.vintagesynth.com/novation/supernova.php
http://www.vintagesynth.com/misc/andromeda.php

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i am currently saving up for a drum synth too Elektron Analog Rytm
https://www.elektron.se/products/analog-rytm/

planning on getting a used Waldorf Microwave XT too ,if i find a good price
http://www.vintagesynth.com/waldorf/microwavext.php

anyway those are just the ones i got or planning to get, truth is the new line of analogue synths , modular synths,Nord Lead , Dave Smith , upcoming Novation synth ,is and sounds simply amazing.For example the new OB-6 Dave Smith & Oberheim's baby !
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GUI's and dll's are nice too but maybe its time to join the big league ? :tu:

sorry for taking up space without recommending any plugins , just wanted to share a cool thought with you

the good thing however for a sound-designer/preset-maker is that there are so few presetpacks for all these sets that its 100% that you are going to have lots of sales for even a simple presetpack (check out Ultimate-X for Virus for example). I mean if i had a Virus and 10 sound designers presetpacks to choose from , i'd simply buy them all. Its not like for massive or sylenth where you have thousands upon thousands of packs being released yearly
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koukouba wrote:maybe its time you started fiddling with some real knobs my friend :)

nothing can really compare , even if the kids on their pc's say otherwise

here are a couple of synths i have already got off of e-bay

http://www.vintagesynth.com/novation/supernova.php
http://www.vintagesynth.com/misc/andromeda.php

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i am currently saving up for a drum synth too Elektron Analog Rytm
Image

planning on getting a used Waldorf Microwave XT too ,if i find a good price
http://www.vintagesynth.com/waldorf/microwavext.php

anyway those are just the ones i got or planning to get, truth is the new line of analogue synths , modular synths,Nord Lead , Dave Smith , upcoming Novation synth ,is and sounds simply amazing.For example the new OB-6 Dave Smith & Oberheim's baby !
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GUI's and dll's are nice too but maybe its time to join the big league ? :tu:

sorry for taking up space without recommending any plugins , just wanted to share a cool thought with you
Unfortunately, there is no market for making sound libraries for these things and even if there were, the number of libraries I would have to sell to make up for the cost of the synths would be way more than I could ever hope to sell.

So thanks, but no thanks.

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NI rounds and/or kontour. Half of KVR owns them because they are included into Komplete 10 standard, and 90% owners keep forgetting about them because they are buried under the other things, have crappy presets and afaik there are NO third-party banks for them. Yet both have incredible, monark-level sound quality and very unique features.
You may think you can fly ... but you better not try

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recursive one wrote:NI rounds and/or kontour. Half of KVR owns them because they are included into Komplete 10 standard, and 90% owners keep forgetting about them because they are buried under the other things, have crappy presets and afaik there are NO third-party banks for them. Yet both have incredible, monark-level sound quality and very unique features.
Not interested?
You may think you can fly ... but you better not try

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recursive one wrote:
recursive one wrote:NI rounds and/or kontour. Half of KVR owns them because they are included into Komplete 10 standard, and 90% owners keep forgetting about them because they are buried under the other things, have crappy presets and afaik there are NO third-party banks for them. Yet both have incredible, monark-level sound quality and very unique features.
Not interested?
If you look, NI is on my reject list. Not because I don't like their stuff (
I have Komplete 9) but I'm not spending money on an upgrade that gives me little more than what I already have and most of it I don't need. And their products, sold individually, are way overpriced and I will never purchase them individually. That is why NI is on my reject list.

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wagtunes wrote: If you look, NI is on my reject list.
Sorry, didn't notice that. Yet, i think you may look into these two synths - they both are really unique and sound good.
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recursive one wrote:
wagtunes wrote: If you look, NI is on my reject list.
Sorry, didn't notice that. Yet, i think you may look into these two synths - they both are really unique and sound good.
Checked them both out. They're Reaktor synths. Nobody makes preset libraries for Reaktor synths. Too much free stuff in the download area. These would be wasted purchases for me.

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wagtunes wrote: Nobody makes preset libraries for Reaktor synths.
Well, I see these two are not your thing but to give a complete picture there are commercial soundsets for Razor made by Ayin Zahev, Xenos, Patchpool and others
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recursive one wrote:
wagtunes wrote: Nobody makes preset libraries for Reaktor synths.
Well, I see these two are not your thing but to give a complete picture there are commercial soundsets for Razor made by Ayin Zahev, Xenos, Patchpool and others
Well, I don't like the preset management system of Reaktor. In fact, it is the one thing about it that turns me off of using it more than I do. You literally have to save a whole new ensemble.

Anyway, NI stuff just isn't for me. If others like it for making presets, great. Not my cup of tea.

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I apologize in advance for not recommending a synth....but I am curious...are you an American? A simple yes or no will suffice.

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