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Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:57 pm

VitaminD wrote:Hey You guys didn't win the American Revolutionary War. We're not a part of the UK.

But you needed to think about that for 18 months before making your mind up then?

VitaminD · Post by **VitaminD** » Sat Apr 09, 2016 11:51 pm

Numanoid wrote:
VitaminD wrote:Hey You guys didn't win the American Revolutionary War. We're not a part of the UK.
But you needed to think about that for 18 months before making your mind up then?

These things take time!

yul · Post by **yul** » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:07 pm

I would love to see this synth but I am not curious about earlier comment of NI being focused on Reaktor. I am a user of FM8 and would really hate to see it with the same fate at Pro 53. On NI they stated Pro53 was using such an old code base they had no choice. I wonder about FM8 now.. Again would love to see Pro54.

c_voltage · Post by **c_voltage** » Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:55 pm

Honestly to say Arturia replication seems to me more interesting by sound. (though pro54 also good plugin, was).

DrGonzo · Post by **DrGonzo** » Sun Apr 10, 2016 10:19 pm

electro wrote:U-he has released a Pro One beta.

Was just going to write about this - if anyone is getting close to make a really detailed clone of the P5 - it's U-he.

Love Monark - but to be honest, I would rather see something new and innovative from NI. And as a separate plugin.

/C

Elektronisch · Post by **Elektronisch** » Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:45 am

robotmonkey wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:Does DirectWave have scripting? All those effects (presets included - the impulse responses for convolution reverb that come with Kontakt are taking 520 MB, that's the majority of the installer, for your information)? Extensive database with tagging? Extensive support for tons of various formats?

Good try about "full featured".
Well, let's put it that way then. Waves full offline installer is about 750 megabytes. In that you get every single effect and the one synth that Waves has ever made. It's literally hundreds of high quality plugins (+ all manuals) that are in my opinion better than the competing NI stuff. An average installer for a single NI effect (be it a EQ, or a Compressor or whatever) is about 45-55 megabytes. An average installer for a NI synth seems to be over 100 megabytes. Guitar Rig 5 is also 450 megabytes. Waves GTR (that does everything that GR5 does) is 150 megabytes installed. Now tell me that NI does not make bloatware.

Please show us that bloatware because If i install a single NI product i only see that product. So no bloatware for me.

electro · Post by **electro** » Mon Aug 01, 2016 6:25 pm

K11 looks a bit weak. A Reaktor 6 Pro 54 would have done for Komplete what Synclavier V did for Collection V IMO.

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Mon Aug 01, 2016 6:36 pm

It seems that the synth department at NI is now into making "innovative" (i.e. geeky, niched, strange) reaktor ensembles, don't think they may be planning to make Pro54 or anything in that vein.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Mon Aug 01, 2016 6:46 pm

electro wrote:K11 looks a bit weak. A Reaktor 6 Pro 54 would have done for Komplete what Synclavier V did for Collection V IMO.

Flesh looks tasty

It got sample, monosynth, granular/polysynth, and subsynth engines

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/p ... ths/flesh/

cake builder · Post by **cake builder** » Mon Aug 01, 2016 6:54 pm

I loved Pro-53, partially because of the preset 'Super Sync Lead.' I had to fight the urge to put that on every song. It may be for the best that I don't have access to it anymore.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Mon Aug 01, 2016 7:20 pm

Seems like Pro-53 got faded out when DSI came back into being with Evolver.

Pro-53 got released 14 years ago, and that was about the same year Evolver came out.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Mon Aug 01, 2016 7:23 pm

Evolver had absolutely nothing to do with it, though.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Mon Aug 01, 2016 7:26 pm

Of course not, I am just speculating that the marketing dept at NI thought that punters at that time rather would spend their money on actual DSI gear, than emulated software, and thus cut further development of it.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:16 pm

Again wrong, the decision to discontinue Pro-53 (and Spektral Delay and Vokator at the same time) was because of the old framework they were using to make those plugins, which made updating them an overwhelming effort (the whole framework wasn't 64-bit compatible, so plugins would need recoding from scratch, which NI found not feasible to put manhours into considering sales of those plugins at the time).

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:21 pm

So why did they hang on to Absynth, that also came out in 2002
http://www.kvraudio.com/news/native_ins ... ipping_262

And FM7 came out even before 2002, so why did they update that to FM8 in 2006 ?

EvilDragon wrote:Again wrong .... which NI found not feasible to put manhours into considering sales of those plugins at the time

I don't see how you can say that I am wrong. We both arrived at the same conclusion that they didn't want to invest in further updates of Pro53 because they didn't think they would get back the money in sales

NI Pro 54?