Splice rent to own Serum plan, what do you think?

[ere2learn]

One thing curious to me is how Serum doesn't have MSEGs. I doubt that hasn't been brought up before. It would make things even more interesting imo.

The LFOs are MSEG & can do 1 shot

[EnGee]

One thing curious to me is how Serum doesn't have MSEGs. I doubt that hasn't been brought up before. It would make things even more interesting imo.

The LFOs are MSEG & can do 1 shot

Indeed. The LFO acts as advanced envelopes as well.

Thanks for the video explaining the Arp, but it is so much easier just to insert Arpeggio as midi effect before Serum or just using the piano roll in the host.

Still, IMO, in Massive it is easier as steps and also because it has two options. Anyway, the LFOs in Serum has flexible curves. But they are definitely one area calling for enhancement, maybe more like Absynth's powerful envelopes for example or Harmor's great modifiers

Yesterday was the first payment, and really feels so comfortable (one bottle of wine less in the month )

[emef]

i got on the $10 a month plan, it's a great idea, i couldn't quite bring myself to part with $189 for it all in one go

[musikmachine]

Couldn't Serum load images as well and convert them into Waveforms or am I mixing this up with another synth?

Yeah i saw that and was like what a cool way to take an image that inspires and use it as a source for sound design and creating unique timbres.

[VariKusBrainZ]

Couldn't Serum load images as well and convert them into Waveforms or am I mixing this up with another synth?

Maybe youre thinking of UVI Falcon's wavetable module

[Compyfox]

Q has been answered (see posts above), but thanks

[VariKusBrainZ]

I tried to sign up for this, website just goes back to the account creation process after Ive tried unsuccessfully to join and pay.

Thanks for saving me some money Splice

[Zexila]

Is it too early for a "List the synths you want Splice to offer for renting" thread? With a poll of course

[xamido]

While i think this synth is massively overpriced (Pun fully intended) it is the most fun i have had with a synth for a long long time, there are some annoying little UI things like some of the controls being horizontal drag instead of vertical drag, and some of the controls just have a mind of their own in the way they work.
If it was half the price i would say instabuy for anybody wanting to smash Brostep/Reese/Neurobass/EDM sounds out, but at $200 it is competing with Massive that is pretty much free nowadays if you look around for a cheap select or whatever, and while this thing is easier to achieve results, Massive still works fine for anybody on a budget, a shame really, because at $100 this would need to be in everybody's set up.

I can see why the $10 a month is needed, because this thing should simply put, just be cheaper, it would have a whole slew of extra users, maybe this rent to buy will work out, but even then it is still $200 that in todays world, most people don't have.

What a load of crap.

[musikmachine]

I think the unison mode is great, see what people are saying now about that. It definitely fills a spot other synths don't and i think with a bit of processing it can really shine. Oh yeah hadn't tried the hall reverb when i mentioned the fx, that's really nice.

I agree with you. The unison (looks similar to Dune 2) and the reverb are great really. I think the reverb is from TAL, right?

Well, about Serum, I like it more and more. There are some great presets, but they are few really. I begin to like it more even than Dune 2!. I was carefully comparing my own presets (doing the same steps mostly) in the two synths, and in the end, the overall sound that I like is almost always from Serum.

I can't say that Serum can replace all my synths, of course not! But together with LuSH 101, I think they can make a perfect team. I'm investing my time to learn them well and doing what I need from presets with them, as those are the most I like from my collection now.
They are very different of course, so that they can complement each other IMO. I wish I can restrict myself to those two, because the projects in the future would be much easier to manage. Looking at my old projects now, there is always one or two synths missing now (I need to stop selling/buying synths!).

Only one thing I need to know is how to use the LFO like the stepper in Massive. Mostly like a step sequencer modulating the semitones, as Serum has no ARP or Sequencer.

I don't know about the reverb but it's one of the best i've heard on a synth. Yeah unison is very rich with some nie options, not something i often use on synths but one of my favorite aspects of this synth.

Yeah it's grown on me in the 3 days i used it, a bit longer on the trial period would be good or more presets covering different genres, i wouldn't buy it based on the existing ones (if that's the idea) just cause they're not the type of sounds i'd use, had to google around for stuff closer to my music as i viewed Serum as a very digital sounding aggressive synth.

So i'm curious how do people use the effect unit? Just wondering what functions that could be used for besides being a multi-fx but my thinking is that the price reflects the fact that there are a synth and and effect but not sure what you can do with the effect unit.

[Apostate]

While i think this synth is massively overpriced (Pun fully intended) it is the most fun i have had with a synth for a long long time, there are some annoying little UI things like some of the controls being horizontal drag instead of vertical drag, and some of the controls just have a mind of their own in the way they work.
If it was half the price i would say instabuy for anybody wanting to smash Brostep/Reese/Neurobass/EDM sounds out, but at $200 it is competing with Massive that is pretty much free nowadays if you look around for a cheap select or whatever, and while this thing is easier to achieve results, Massive still works fine for anybody on a budget, a shame really, because at $100 this would need to be in everybody's set up.

I can see why the $10 a month is needed, because this thing should simply put, just be cheaper, it would have a whole slew of extra users, maybe this rent to buy will work out, but even then it is still $200 that in todays world, most people don't have.

What a load of crap.

I don't know about a load of crap (at least I wouldn't have put it that way), but it's true, many of the best synths aren't much cheaper or more expensive than Serum. Zebra is about the same (and with the basically essential HZ, about a hundred or so more US dollars), Diva just under. Omnisphere is well over twice twice that.

Not sure Serum is particulary expensive at all when viewed that way, unless a person compares it to SynthMaster, and even then most of us would probably want the full version, which I believe isn't too far away from Serum either.

So, massively expensive...uh, hell no. But hey, one could always just grab PPG Wavemapper and save some bucks, to me the sound is overall at least as good...but you don't have anywhere near the effects or their usefully myriad modulation options like Serum does. But, it could be argued the two are apples and oranges.

As far as reverb on synths...sorry, Serum to my ears comes nowhere near the Waldorf in that area. Largo and Nave have delays and reverb to kill for. Two of the few synths I rarely use outboard on in those areas. Serum's is good, but I've run across the need for a drop of Valhalla more often than not, despite all the excellent modulation options. Just me.

[bungle]

While i think this synth is massively overpriced (Pun fully intended) it is the most fun i have had with a synth for a long long time, there are some annoying little UI things like some of the controls being horizontal drag instead of vertical drag, and some of the controls just have a mind of their own in the way they work.
If it was half the price i would say instabuy for anybody wanting to smash Brostep/Reese/Neurobass/EDM sounds out, but at $200 it is competing with Massive that is pretty much free nowadays if you look around for a cheap select or whatever, and while this thing is easier to achieve results, Massive still works fine for anybody on a budget, a shame really, because at $100 this would need to be in everybody's set up.

I can see why the $10 a month is needed, because this thing should simply put, just be cheaper, it would have a whole slew of extra users, maybe this rent to buy will work out, but even then it is still $200 that in todays world, most people don't have.

What a load of crap.

Such an intelligent argument, i bow to your superior intellect.

[bungle]

For me it is massively over priced because it works so poorly in Maschine, so far about 50% of the controls can't be mapped by Maschine leaving it less than useless unless you go back to using the mouse, which kind of defeats using Maschine, so yes to me i think it is massively over priced.

It is still a great synth for mouse tweakers though.

[snigelx]

first of all, i detest contemporary ventures in to 'subscription' models. i will never support such models.

as far as renting-to-own goes.... ok, that's better than the subscription model for sure. but, the issue I see if this model would 'take off' so to speak, would be devs pricing the plugin higher as a result.

i see your concern, Daags. furthermore, i understand that you were not attempting to put the retail purchase over the subscription purchase. your concerns are valid, regardless of the fact that these two devs seem to be down-to-earth (like others), there are still many questions we've yet to explore about this kind of scheme (which is also new for them). it may go over without a hitch for many, but there may be issues that could arise that neither party imagined. i am curious how this will affect traditional sale periods and also how new releases will be introduced for both kinds of consumer...esp while under contract to pay. if there is no change for both methods of purchasing a product then it looks great out of the gate. i'm both hopeful and yet i have a few reservations about it. we'll see i suppose this time next year. i am sure many other devs are keeping a close eye on this.

furthermore, being that this Splice service is taking off like a rocketship at the moment, you can be sure that Xfer's Serum will be riding inside the capsule as well...being the only piece of Splice soft that is offered this way, if i understand correctly. so if it works out that lots of folks start renting it then there could be a surge of income somewhere. I am not saying it is a bad thing...and i'm not saying that's a sure thing, but it's just something to keep and eye on. don't know that i'll be back for few day to see what anyone says about this but i thought i would give some props to Daags there. good that you are thinking about the negatives... sure there are positives...we know the positives from the kind dev that laid them out...but what are the negatives.....very good to try to fathom at this time when the clouds part and some blinding white light is decending into the marketplace. stay hopeful...yet vigilant. i really hope it works out for all who leap on it...and yet also for those who don't later on.

[EnGee]

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Well, Serum's price is similar to Reveal Sound's Spire, Tone2 Icarus and Dune 2! I don't see a huge difference in the prices! Anyway, for me I can't afford paying the whole sum for any of those fine synths. I got Dune 2 for $99 when it was discounted.

The most I paid for a software synth, is for Diva, and that was in the market place (about $135), not directly from the developer!

Now comparing with Spire and Icarus, Serum is not behind in features or sound, so why it should be less than those two?! Yes, Massive is now retail $149, but just recently. Serum also has a very easy way to do your own wavetables with a really nice editor, which the other synths don't have.

Anyway, I'm not defending Serum now (I always been a hard critic to it in the past!) But when I gave it a real chance, I find it really a great synth (just ignore the presets, well most of them if you are not into Dubstep and Sons genre).

Everyone has a different valuation for things. Splice/Serum plan is not for everyone, but I guess it is for most everyone. Poor/Middle classes are still more than the wealthy ones I believe, and this plan is targeting them