Splice rent to own Serum plan, what do you think?
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- KVRian
- 1207 posts since 16 Sep, 2006
In the spirit of total fairness, Serum doesn't have filters that were designed to be wholly dedicated to analogue (i.e. that oh so present, weighty, jump-out-at-cho-mama sound), while anyone knows Diva does. And, Serum never advertised itself to be that.
I should also mention that if Serum was dedicated toward that type of sound, I wouldn't be purchasing it for that, as I already have the abovementioned HZ and XILS IV for that.
I should also mention that if Serum was dedicated toward that type of sound, I wouldn't be purchasing it for that, as I already have the abovementioned HZ and XILS IV for that.
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Ha ha suck it!
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- KVRAF
- 5664 posts since 7 Feb, 2013
I dodn't have Serum yet, just messing around with the demo. As for Zebra, I have the regular one, didn't try the HZ because I didn't realize it makes so much difference. Is there a demo for Zebra HZ?Apostate wrote:
Or perhaps you can, I'd honestly love to hear examples. Not a challenge or disrespectful thing at all, just honestly curious. To be completely forthright, I won't argue this point from here out, I've been doing this for the past weekend, hours and hours of programming, and I did the same last year when I owned both.
Please, prove me wrong.
You may think you can fly ... but you better not try
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- KVRian
- 1207 posts since 16 Sep, 2006
My friend, I wholeheartedly recommend to you HZ. Not only do you receive the (much and eagerly awaited) Zebra 3 free after purchase, but you will open yourself to an amazing world of great percussive and cinematic possibilities. I can't recommend it enough.recursive one wrote:I dodn't have Serum yet, just messing around with the demo. As for Zebra, I have the regular one, didn't try the HZ because I didn't realize it makes so much difference. Is there a demo for Zebra HZ?Apostate wrote:
Or perhaps you can, I'd honestly love to hear examples. Not a challenge or disrespectful thing at all, just honestly curious. To be completely forthright, I won't argue this point from here out, I've been doing this for the past weekend, hours and hours of programming, and I did the same last year when I owned both.
Please, prove me wrong.
There are Dark Zebra videos, but no demo I've aware of.
I must say, I'm so glad I was able to recommend that to you, thanks for the opportunity. Dark Zebra opens up a ton of doors.
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Ha ha suck it!
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 8644 posts since 2 Oct, 2006 from Leeds, UK
@Ingo it does appear as if you're trying to paint Serum/Splice in a negative light and then heap praise on other synths, that's just the impression i've got from other posts i've read as well, no offence intended.
I haven't 'bought' Serum yet as i was going to run the demo to try out a few more things before subscribing but it's pointless if it's two years old. Strange that the demo is so old if it wants to attract new buyers, read it only runs for 15 minutes as well. First impressions count and all that.
I agree about it being a programmers synth and i think some more presets from top sound designers and an updated demo would really help potential new customers.
Feel free to post any audio clips you find or create, would love to hear what you guys are doing with it.
I haven't 'bought' Serum yet as i was going to run the demo to try out a few more things before subscribing but it's pointless if it's two years old. Strange that the demo is so old if it wants to attract new buyers, read it only runs for 15 minutes as well. First impressions count and all that.
I agree about it being a programmers synth and i think some more presets from top sound designers and an updated demo would really help potential new customers.
Feel free to post any audio clips you find or create, would love to hear what you guys are doing with it.
Latest release and Socials: https://linktr.ee/ph.i.ltr3
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- KVRian
- 1207 posts since 16 Sep, 2006
I would also like to recommend checking out some of the "composing with" Serum stuff on youtube. Just stop by there and go on a hunt, you'll find all kinds of cool stuff.musikmachine wrote:@Ingo it does appear as if you're trying to paint Serum/Splice in a negative light and then heap praise on other synths, that's just the impression i've got from other posts i've read as well, no offence intended.
I haven't 'bought' Serum yet as i was going to run the demo to try out a few more things before subscribing but it's pointless if it's two years old. Strange that the demo is so old if it wants to attract new buyers, read it only runs for 15 minutes as well. First impressions count and all that.
I agree about it being a programmers synth and i think some more presets from top sound designers and an updated demo would really help potential new customers.
Feel free to post any audio clips you find or create, would love to hear what you guys are doing with it.
Ha ha suck it!
- KVRAF
- 2110 posts since 5 Oct, 2015 from Swedish / Living in Hong Kong
Comparing Serum and Zebra is like comparing an Apple with a Cherry. The sound is different, workflow is different, etc. I have both just because of that reason. I do think this Splice rent is a good idea for people who badly want a plugin but can't put out the money up front. Talented people are not always rich ..and especially if you are young 
Win 10 -64bit, CPU i7-7700K, 32Gb, Focusrite 2i2, FL-studio 20, Studio One 4, Reason 10
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- KVRian
- 1207 posts since 16 Sep, 2006
Your latter point is pretty obvious, while the former I have contention with. Zebra is mostly obviously different in that you can't import wave files, however there are definite similarities. I strongly recommend you try demo'ing (if you don't outright own) the two and finding out for yourself if you haven't already. It's also a good way to learn important things. I don't mean this in a condescending way at all, I just want to help.ATN69 wrote:Comparing Serum and Zebra is like comparing an Apple with a Cherry. The sound is different, workflow is different, etc. I have both just because of that reason. I do think this Splice rent is a good idea for people who badly want a plugin but can't put out the money up front. Talented people are not always rich ..and especially if you are young
I also should say, if you feel Serum is more than punchy and weighty enough for your own, unique musical vision, than that's MORE than good enough. It's you who knows what's best according to your vision.
Ha ha suck it!
- KVRAF
- 3362 posts since 31 Dec, 2004 from People's Republic of Minnesota
I'd say synthmaster is a better beginner synth. Not to mention the value is astonishing.
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- KVRAF
- 35675 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Well... time to give Serum a ride. I'll at least demo it three days now. If it suits me, might extend it with some $10 payments. Although i surely don't need a new synth. Especially interested how the filters are.
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- KVRAF
- 5664 posts since 7 Feb, 2013
Thanks, will check out the videos you are talking about. Strange that U-He don't have demo for Zebra HZ - for their otehr products there are demos with quite reasonable restrictions.Apostate wrote: My friend, I wholeheartedly recommend to you HZ. Not only do you receive the (much and eagerly awaited) Zebra 3 free after purchase, but you will open yourself to an amazing world of great percussive and cinematic possibilities. I can't recommend it enough.
There are Dark Zebra videos, but no demo I've aware of.
I must say, I'm so glad I was able to recommend that to you, thanks for the opportunity. Dark Zebra opens up a ton of doors.
But if anythning, I'm mostly after edgy futuristic sounds useable in psychedelic trance and less interested in cinematic sounds. Also I don't think that a good filter may only be an analogue modelled one. I do find Serum filters a bit weak though but various things possible at the oscillator level have their own value (i've made some patches in a demo which don't use filters at all).
You may think you can fly ... but you better not try
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- KVRAF
- 35675 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Mmmh... first question already. Why do i have to state my Paypal, even though i only want to try Serum? Do i have to give them auto-billing-access to my Paypal like on other sites? I wouldn't want that at all.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 8644 posts since 2 Oct, 2006 from Leeds, UK
Thanks, i tried searching for composing with serum but nothing specific came up.Apostate wrote:I would also like to recommend checking out some of the "composing with" Serum stuff on youtube. Just stop by there and go on a hunt, you'll find all kinds of cool stuff.
In terms of other synths i guess i don't click with a lot of synth interfaces but Serum was immediate and that's a factor. I don't own Zebra and that with DZ would run to about £250, better be bloody fantastic!
I have synths for different roles anyway; Blocks for modular, Monark for bass, Oddity 2 for pads and Serum would be ideal for plucks and stabs, it does do PPG style bells and glassy leads really well as well.
Just running through these videos and getting lots of insights on the purpose of things and Steve's vision behind the different features of Serum:
I'm more convinced listening to Steve Duda talk about Serum than i am from demoing it.
Latest release and Socials: https://linktr.ee/ph.i.ltr3
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 8644 posts since 2 Oct, 2006 from Leeds, UK
If you have the drop or anything i recommend putting that after it, really responds well IMO.recursive one wrote:Thanks, will check out the videos you are talking about. Strange that U-He don't have demo for Zebra HZ - for their otehr products there are demos with quite reasonable restrictions.Apostate wrote: My friend, I wholeheartedly recommend to you HZ. Not only do you receive the (much and eagerly awaited) Zebra 3 free after purchase, but you will open yourself to an amazing world of great percussive and cinematic possibilities. I can't recommend it enough.
There are Dark Zebra videos, but no demo I've aware of.
I must say, I'm so glad I was able to recommend that to you, thanks for the opportunity. Dark Zebra opens up a ton of doors.
But if anythning, I'm mostly after edgy futuristic sounds useable in psychedelic trance and less interested in cinematic sounds. Also I don't think that a good filter may only be an analogue modelled one. I do find Serum filters a bit weak though but various things possible at the oscillator level have their own value (i've made some patches in a demo which don't use filters at all).
Latest release and Socials: https://linktr.ee/ph.i.ltr3
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 8644 posts since 2 Oct, 2006 from Leeds, UK
I think cause you're essentially subscribing but the first 3 days are free and you can cancel if you change your mind so it's a gratis period. I cancelled on the 2nd day, no issue but yeah that's how Splice works re billing but you can cancel and resume any time.chk071 wrote:Mmmh... first question already. Why do i have to state my Paypal, even though i only want to try Serum? Do i have to give them auto-billing-access to my Paypal like on other sites? I wouldn't want that at all.
Latest release and Socials: https://linktr.ee/ph.i.ltr3
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- KVRian
- 1207 posts since 16 Sep, 2006
Sounds like you are on a winning path, you're checking out the pertinent vids, plus you have a super good idea of what you want, go for it!musikmachine wrote: I have synths for different roles anyway; Blocks for modular, Monark for bass, Oddity 2 for pads and Serum would be ideal for plucks and stabs, it does do PPG style bells and glassy leads really well as well.
Just running through these videos
Ha ha suck it!
