iZotope Iris 2

[Ben H]

-> on the list of bugs never to be fixed... *sigh*

They already have your money, so they don't care.

[Sampleconstruct]

-> on the list of bugs never to be fixed... *sigh*

They already have your money, so they don't care.

Only for Iris 1 though, they gave me an NFR for Iris 2, LOL and I worked hard for it.

[aMUSEd]

-> on the list of bugs never to be fixed... *sigh*

They already have your money, so they don't care.

They should if they want more of it though. If they keep breaking trust with their existing user base just to gain short term profits from new customers eventually that will bite them in the ass.

[Ben H]

-> on the list of bugs never to be fixed... *sigh*

They already have your money, so they don't care.

Only for Iris 1 though, they gave me an NFR for Iris 2, LOL and I worked hard for it.

Yeah I decided not to buy Iris 2 either, after I saw how bug-riddled it was/still is.

[DJ Warmonger]

-> on the list of bugs never to be fixed... *sigh*

They already have your money, so they don't care.

They don't have my money yet, though

Bad support for promising products ruins the market

[Sampleconstruct]

Actually the last time I gave them my money was for the update to RX4 Advanced, that still works like a charm.

[zerocrossing]

-> on the list of bugs never to be fixed... *sigh*

They already have your money, so they don't care.

Only for Iris 1 though, they gave me an NFR for Iris 2, LOL and I worked hard for it.

Yeah I decided not to buy Iris 2 either, after I saw how bug-riddled it was/still is.

Other than the v1 preset import, is there any major bug?

[Sampleconstruct]

-> on the list of bugs never to be fixed... *sigh*

They already have your money, so they don't care.

Only for Iris 1 though, they gave me an NFR for Iris 2, LOL and I worked hard for it.

Yeah I decided not to buy Iris 2 either, after I saw how bug-riddled it was/still is.

Other than the v1 preset import, is there any major bug?

Depends on your definition of “major bugs“, but yes, i would call some of the issues below major bugs.

*The Sample&Hold (random) LFO is still broken in version 2.01, in most cases it decides not to modulate, sometimes it modulates, so it’s behavior is very erratic. Also the speed of the random LFO can currently not be modulated with any controller. So all patches using a random LFO are affected by that. iZotope is still working on a fix for this issue (they said in March 2015).

*When you assign the modulation wheel to the main output gain using negative values, e.g. something like -20% to compensate for the gain boost introduced by the distortion FX (also assigned to the wheel), the next time you open the preset the wheel will totally mute the output when fully engaged, as the master output knob at the top of the UI can't be assigned to any controller anymore, the only workaround is to individually assign negative values to the individual outputs of each oscillator.

*Trying to modulate Chorus depth (not mix) with a Macro doesn't work, the knob modulation indicator is actually moving when tuning the Macro but the sound doesn't change.

*Since Iris 2 the Send-levels to the FX modules are routed pre-envelope, so when a patch is using the FX-Send-mode, a sound will reach the FX section although it’s sustain level might be turned to zero. They are thinking of adding a pre/post-switch to fix this issue, the workaround is, to also assign the amplitude envelope of an oscillator the the respective send level.

*The feature to change LFO waveforms via Macros has been removed in Iris 2

*As the minimum/maximum modulation amount was removed in Iris 2, some modulation values can not be assigned accurately anymore, like e.g. delay times, cutoff levels etc, so some modulation levels might slightly differ in the converted Iris 2 patches.

*The new architecture of Iris 2 renders some former assignments useless/impossible, so I used many workarounds in the Iris 2 patches, sometimes I also added a few modulations here and there, taking advantage of the new modulation system. But the new patches sound just as good

*The zipper noises in Iris 2 when moving/automating Macros and other controllers like the Modwheel have increased significantly in comparison with version 1, if you move them slow enough, you will be able to avoid those artifacts.

*CPU usage has significantly increased in Iris 2.

*The master output knob at the top of the GUI can't be modulated anymore.

*Limiter amount can't be modulated anymore.

*Modulating delay time with an LFO does not produce usable results.

[menthol]

-> on the list of bugs never to be fixed... *sigh*

They already have your money, so they don't care.

Only for Iris 1 though, they gave me an NFR for Iris 2, LOL and I worked hard for it.

Yeah I decided not to buy Iris 2 either, after I saw how bug-riddled it was/still is.

Other than the v1 preset import, is there any major bug?

Depends on your definition of “major bugs“, but yes, i would call some of the issues below major bugs.

*The Sample&Hold (random) LFO is still broken in version 2.01, in most cases it decides not to modulate, sometimes it modulates, so it’s behavior is very erratic. Also the speed of the random LFO can currently not be modulated with any controller. So all patches using a random LFO are affected by that. iZotope is still working on a fix for this issue (they said in March 2015).

*When you assign the modulation wheel to the main output gain using negative values, e.g. something like -20% to compensate for the gain boost introduced by the distortion FX (also assigned to the wheel), the next time you open the preset the wheel will totally mute the output when fully engaged, as the master output knob at the top of the UI can't be assigned to any controller anymore, the only workaround is to individually assign negative values to the individual outputs of each oscillator.

*Trying to modulate Chorus depth (not mix) with a Macro doesn't work, the knob modulation indicator is actually moving when tuning the Macro but the sound doesn't change.

*Since Iris 2 the Send-levels to the FX modules are routed pre-envelope, so when a patch is using the FX-Send-mode, a sound will reach the FX section although it’s sustain level might be turned to zero. They are thinking of adding a pre/post-switch to fix this issue, the workaround is, to also assign the amplitude envelope of an oscillator the the respective send level.

*The feature to change LFO waveforms via Macros has been removed in Iris 2

*As the minimum/maximum modulation amount was removed in Iris 2, some modulation values can not be assigned accurately anymore, like e.g. delay times, cutoff levels etc, so some modulation levels might slightly differ in the converted Iris 2 patches.

*The new architecture of Iris 2 renders some former assignments useless/impossible, so I used many workarounds in the Iris 2 patches, sometimes I also added a few modulations here and there, taking advantage of the new modulation system. But the new patches sound just as good

*The zipper noises in Iris 2 when moving/automating Macros and other controllers like the Modwheel have increased significantly in comparison with version 1, if you move them slow enough, you will be able to avoid those artifacts.

*CPU usage has significantly increased in Iris 2.

*The master output knob at the top of the GUI can't be modulated anymore.

*Limiter amount can't be modulated anymore.

*Modulating delay time with an LFO does not produce usable results.

Yeah, but other than those, it works flawlessly!

[Ben H]

Other than the v1 preset import, is there any major bug?

Depends on your definition of “major bugs“, but yes, i would call some of the issues below major bugs.

*The Sample&Hold (random) LFO is still broken in version 2.01, in most cases it decides not to modulate, sometimes it modulates, so it’s behavior is very erratic. Also the speed of the random LFO can currently not be modulated with any controller. So all patches using a random LFO are affected by that. iZotope is still working on a fix for this issue (they said in March 2015).

*When you assign the modulation wheel to the main output gain using negative values, e.g. something like -20% to compensate for the gain boost introduced by the distortion FX (also assigned to the wheel), the next time you open the preset the wheel will totally mute the output when fully engaged, as the master output knob at the top of the UI can't be assigned to any controller anymore, the only workaround is to individually assign negative values to the individual outputs of each oscillator.

*Trying to modulate Chorus depth (not mix) with a Macro doesn't work, the knob modulation indicator is actually moving when tuning the Macro but the sound doesn't change.

*Since Iris 2 the Send-levels to the FX modules are routed pre-envelope, so when a patch is using the FX-Send-mode, a sound will reach the FX section although it’s sustain level might be turned to zero. They are thinking of adding a pre/post-switch to fix this issue, the workaround is, to also assign the amplitude envelope of an oscillator the the respective send level.

*The feature to change LFO waveforms via Macros has been removed in Iris 2

*As the minimum/maximum modulation amount was removed in Iris 2, some modulation values can not be assigned accurately anymore, like e.g. delay times, cutoff levels etc, so some modulation levels might slightly differ in the converted Iris 2 patches.

*The new architecture of Iris 2 renders some former assignments useless/impossible, so I used many workarounds in the Iris 2 patches, sometimes I also added a few modulations here and there, taking advantage of the new modulation system. But the new patches sound just as good

*The zipper noises in Iris 2 when moving/automating Macros and other controllers like the Modwheel have increased significantly in comparison with version 1, if you move them slow enough, you will be able to avoid those artifacts.

*CPU usage has significantly increased in Iris 2.

*The master output knob at the top of the GUI can't be modulated anymore.

*Limiter amount can't be modulated anymore.

*Modulating delay time with an LFO does not produce usable results.

Yeah, but other than those, it works flawlessly!

lol.

[Kalamata Kid]

Yea,
I am always right
accept when I am wrong!

[Fleer]

accept when I am wrong!

We do, KK, we do

[Kalamata Kid]

accept when I am wrong!

We do, KK, we do

The Terminator pissed off that the did not get the part in a play about Bach
on the way out said "I'll be Bach".

Not so funny, lately been a fan of Sibelius.

Edit: Sorry for the dumb stupid humor.
It was 4 AM here. That's my excuse.
Fleer is a fan of Bach and so am I.

Second edit: As it turns out there is already such
humor: https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=c ... %22bach%22
I promise I will not be back to do any more Bach humor edits.

[Fleer]

LOL!

[MarlaPodolski]

"*The master output knob at the top of the GUI can't be modulated anymore.

*Limiter amount can't be modulated anymore.

*Modulating delay time with an LFO does not produce usable results." - sampleconstruct

These are really the only ones that annoy me. But really not enough to complain about it.


I went into the purchase of Iris 2 and many sound packs fully expecting nothing, or, if I expected anything it would have been that iZotope would drop all support for Iris and stop further development right after purchase.

So, I can report back that I have not been disappointed in any way by iZotope and really love Iris 2 and very much enjoy using it.

I've been a regular critic of iZotope's stunts over time about as much as anyone else. I never forgave them for removing the reverb after Ozone 5, just for example. I knew what I was getting into going with Iris 2. Make informed purchases and then you don't have to waste your creative time complaining on some forum. I hate wasting time -- I have far better things to do and lots of money to make. Complaining gives too much acknowledgement that you even recognize the company's existence, er, maybe give some false importance to them. Negative criticism, as in attempting to dissuade others from using, serves no purpose to me really, since I couldn't care less what others use. If I did care, I might complain about Iris loudly, pushing more and more of you here toward using those same dozen or so instruments you do use here, sounding all alike and not very interesting either. That's why, btw, I use instruments such as Iris and others, bugs and all.