This sentence is popping up everywhere these days.VitaminD wrote:How would you know if your PC was infected unless either the AV scan caught it and told you or you noticed some unusual behavior? The most dangerous virus/exploit is the one you don't see.. like a ninja.. in the shadows... watching... waiting...chk071 wrote:Everyone gave that impression. It's fun to scare people off. I've seen a laptop running XP this afternoon btw. Also online. The press is bla, bla, bla, and bla. This is dangerous, that is dangerous. OMG, DON'T DO THAT!! IT'S TEH DANGER!!! Frankly, i'm growing more and more tired of it. My 3rd party antivirus also notified me about the evil threats of teh internet every day with popups. I'm now using Microsoft's Windows Defender, and don't feel vulnerable at all. The best firewall is your own behavior online.![]()
I think much of the Windows patches weren't for mitigating viruses, but instead for bugs and exploitables that allowed hackers/codecrackers and not the 9-5chatroomslackers entrance into a PC. I don't think AV is for blocking those guys. Firewall might to a degree... maybe.
That said, I probably wouldn't want to do any banking on an XP system today.. but otherwise I probably wouldn't care either. There is definitely planned obsolescence in the OS.. I liked Windows 7 but that is near end of patching cycle too. Boo.
Anyone still use Windows XP?
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- KVRian
- 726 posts since 17 Feb, 2015
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- KVRist
- 47 posts since 21 Nov, 2013
I use it to work on old visual basic code
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- KVRAF
- 35687 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
So how would you know that you have it then?VitaminD wrote:How would you know if your PC was infected unless either the AV scan caught it and told you or you noticed some unusual behavior? The most dangerous virus/exploit is the one you don't see.. like a ninja.. in the shadows... watching... waiting...chk071 wrote:Everyone gave that impression. It's fun to scare people off. I've seen a laptop running XP this afternoon btw. Also online. The press is bla, bla, bla, and bla. This is dangerous, that is dangerous. OMG, DON'T DO THAT!! IT'S TEH DANGER!!! Frankly, i'm growing more and more tired of it. My 3rd party antivirus also notified me about the evil threats of teh internet every day with popups. I'm now using Microsoft's Windows Defender, and don't feel vulnerable at all. The best firewall is your own behavior online.![]()
Btw, more and more articles about internet threads show how you get them now. The usual suspect: Opening a mail from unknown adresser, and clicking the executable attached to it. Or following a link to a malicious site, and getting some shit installed then. IMO, people believe it to be much too easy to get infected.
- KVRAF
- 7001 posts since 20 Mar, 2012 from Babbleon
I do. But now I am seeing that "imminent drive failure" notification on boot up. Seems like it's similar to that "planned obsolescence" thingy.
Did you know that some carbon monoxide detectors and smoke alarms are now designed to stop working on the very day (or at least week) that the warranty runs out? Ours beeped two days after the warranty ran out. It wouldn't stopped beeping. That was months ago. I plugged it in today. Still beeping. A useless beeping thing.
Have they started doing that to computers yet? A code built-in that instructs itself to destruct? They don't want to build things to last centuries, never mind decades. Seems like spoons are the only things left made to last. Pretty soon spoons might also self destruct.
Did you know that some carbon monoxide detectors and smoke alarms are now designed to stop working on the very day (or at least week) that the warranty runs out? Ours beeped two days after the warranty ran out. It wouldn't stopped beeping. That was months ago. I plugged it in today. Still beeping. A useless beeping thing.
Have they started doing that to computers yet? A code built-in that instructs itself to destruct? They don't want to build things to last centuries, never mind decades. Seems like spoons are the only things left made to last. Pretty soon spoons might also self destruct.
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- KVRAF
- 6468 posts since 8 Jun, 2009
I use WinXP. Though it's on a Boot Camp partition (with a mirror to a Parallels VM) for those situations where I really, absolutely have to run something old under Windows.
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- KVRian
- 726 posts since 17 Feb, 2015
Still don't know what that actually means.harryupbabble wrote:I do. But now I am seeing that "imminent drive failure" notification on boot up. Seems like it's similar to that "planned obsolescence" thingy.
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- KVRAF
- 6468 posts since 8 Jun, 2009
It's probably beeping because it needs a new battery.harryupbabble wrote:Did you know that some carbon monoxide detectors and smoke alarms are now designed to stop working on the very day (or at least week) that the warranty runs out? Ours beeped two days after the warranty ran out. It wouldn't stopped beeping. That was months ago. I plugged it in today. Still beeping. A useless beeping thing.
- KVRAF
- 7001 posts since 20 Mar, 2012 from Babbleon
I did state it's a plugin type. Yeah I guess assuming that there is a self destruct code built-in to hard drives then yeah maybe Microsoft didn't put it there, maybe the hard drive manufacturer did. Or maybe hard drives just won't last decades and it's a not a "self-destruct" thing at all.Gamma-UT wrote:It's probably beeping because it needs a new battery.harryupbabble wrote:Did you know that some carbon monoxide detectors and smoke alarms are now designed to stop working on the very day (or at least week) that the warranty runs out? Ours beeped two days after the warranty ran out. It wouldn't stopped beeping. That was months ago. I plugged it in today. Still beeping. A useless beeping thing.
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- KVRAF
- 35687 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Actually i had 1 or 2 games which would have run on XP, or some ancient Windows version, mainly due to copy protection stuff. But, dunno, building a machine to run it would be a bit overkill, only for that stuff.Gamma-UT wrote:I use WinXP. Though it's on a Boot Camp partition (with a mirror to a Parallels VM) for those situations where I really, absolutely have to run something old under Windows.
- KVRAF
- 7001 posts since 20 Mar, 2012 from Babbleon
The OS and the hard drive manufacturer are in cahoots. We the hard drive manufacturers will design our hard drives to fail after a decade and for that you OS companies will pay us since new computers will have your newer OS version. Hahaha just paranoidly joking.
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- KVRAF
- 5646 posts since 15 Dec, 2011
Yes, on my offline 2008 laptop. Installed Win7 not a long time ago, but due to some issues with using a second monitor, I went back to XP.
- KVRAF
- 7001 posts since 20 Mar, 2012 from Babbleon
No, this carbon monoxide detector has no battery back up. But I could be wrong. Ours is made by First Alert. Model No: FCD2NPA.Gamma-UT wrote:And some mains-powered gas sensors have to have backup batteries in case of a power cut.harryupbabble wrote:I did state it's a plugin type.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 4314 posts since 31 Oct, 2004
Since Windows XP has been so popular, I wonder if Microsoft will bring it back in the future as a revamped "retro" edition for fans. That would be a smart move. 
- KVRAF
- 7001 posts since 20 Mar, 2012 from Babbleon
I don't mean to derail this thread but it seems like Windows XP and things "designed to be abandoned" have things in common. I just Googled about the carbon monoxide detectors being designed to fail just days after the warranty expires and it seems I'm not the only that that happened to. Check this web page out. Part of this website's page title is "carbon-monoxide-detectors-guaranteed-to-fail-in-7-years".
http://www.mouseprint.org/2012/10/29/ca ... n-7-years/
http://www.mouseprint.org/2012/10/29/ca ... n-7-years/
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