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Aryaroman · Post by **Aryaroman** » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:16 pm

Jarre's new album(s)

Well, it was just an utter disappointment. Jarre collaborating with some of the greatest synths artist, to produce a sort-of look at the history of synth music? Whoa!

The result? An album that fails to evoke really any feelings. When it's not boring and generic sounding EDM, it's bland and flat. I wish I could say more of it, but I can't think of anything. There's nothing really special about the album, except it's mediocrity.

The Stranger Things-theme

Yes, I suppose it's nitpicky to say that you were disappointed about a TV-theme, but seriously, everyone was talking about this, saying that it was the best TV-theme song ever made, or asking how it was done. When I finally heard it, I had one of those famous "This is it?"-moments, when the song turned out to be just some average dark 80s influenced Sci-Fi synth soundtrack material. Now, I like it. It's okay, but I would never have guessed it was the theme tune of anything, rather a generic ambient cue.
The rest of the soundtrack sounds a lot more interesting though.

masterhiggins · Post by **masterhiggins** » Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:16 pm

You missed an opportunity with the title. It should've been, "with great hype comes great disappointment."

I've learned to stop elevating artists onto unreachable pedestals. If an artists lives long enough he or she are bound to eventually disappoint. Sometimes it happens sooner, sometimes later, but it almost always happens. Even the greats start to suck (Aphex twin, Bowie, Prince).

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:23 pm

With Jarre, i never really understood the hype, also not with his older albums.

Just not my kind of music i guess.

Btw, with the track he made with Armin van Buuren, you wouldn't even know that Jarre was involved, if you wouldn't happen to see the track title, and credits.

ATS · Post by **ATS** » Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:23 pm

masterhiggins wrote:You missed an opportunity with the title. It should've been, "with great hype comes great disappointment."

I've learned to stop elevating artists onto unreachable pedestals. If an artists lives long enough he or she are bound to eventually disappoint. Sometimes it happens sooner, sometimes later, but it almost always happens. Even the greats start to suck (Aphex twin, Bowie, Prince).

Bowie never sucked imo

do_androids_dream · Post by **do_androids_dream** » Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:27 pm

ATS wrote:
masterhiggins wrote:You missed an opportunity with the title. It should've been, "with great hype comes great disappointment."

I've learned to stop elevating artists onto unreachable pedestals. If an artists lives long enough he or she are bound to eventually disappoint. Sometimes it happens sooner, sometimes later, but it almost always happens. Even the greats start to suck (Aphex twin, Bowie, Prince).

Bowie never sucked imo

Nor Prince.. Aphex however - A fair amount of his stuff is pretty sucky.

Are we talking about the collab album Jarre did? If that's the case then yeah, it did suck big time lol. Greatest respect for him but it was a very poor album.

Aryaroman · Post by **Aryaroman** » Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:47 pm

masterhiggins wrote:You missed an opportunity with the title. It should've been, "with great hype comes great disappointment."

People get this one all wrong. There is nothing great about hype or disappointment.

ATS wrote:
masterhiggins wrote:You missed an opportunity with the title. It should've been, "with great hype comes great disappointment."

I've learned to stop elevating artists onto unreachable pedestals. If an artists lives long enough he or she are bound to eventually disappoint. Sometimes it happens sooner, sometimes later, but it almost always happens. Even the greats start to suck (Aphex twin, Bowie, Prince).

Bowie never sucked imo

I remember when they showed the last music video he did for the first(?) single of his last album. Boy was I sure it wouldn't impress an old Ziggy Stardust-fan like me. So what was it like?

I'll put it this way. It was horrible and tormenting to watch, beautiful to listen and all in all it was f---ing brilliant.

do_androids_dream wrote:Are we talking about the collab album Jarre did?

Yes.

masterhiggins · Post by **masterhiggins** » Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:52 pm

By sucking I meant their new work, while being good by a normal artist's standards, are far from the quality for which they are known. If you can honestly say that Blackstar was as inspiring and fantastic as Space Oddity then you have your answer.

When people die others have a tendency to regard everything they've done as great. It's no different for artists. When aphex kicks off everyone will say that Syro is amazing.

Aryaroman · Post by **Aryaroman** » Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:56 pm

chk071 wrote:With Jarre, i never really understood the hype, also not with his older albums. Just not my kind of music i guess.

I'm not exactly a fan-fan either, but I've always loved Oxygene IV. It's so french. That one piece has more character and personality than the entire new double-album, which is saying a lot.

ATS · Post by **ATS** » Mon Sep 05, 2016 10:00 pm

masterhiggins wrote:By sucking I meant their new work, while being good by a normal artist's standards, are far from the quality for which they are known. If you can honestly say that Blackstar was as inspiring and fantastic as Space Oddity then you have your answer.

When people die others have a tendency to regard everything they've done as great. It's no different for artists. When aphex kicks off everyone will say that Syro is amazing.

nope always been a Bowie fan, he never sucked imo, dead or not dead

He did go through MANY different phases and I am sure many didn't like one or more of them. I loved Tin Machine as well.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon Sep 05, 2016 10:03 pm

Aryaroman wrote:
chk071 wrote:With Jarre, i never really understood the hype, also not with his older albums. Just not my kind of music i guess.
I'm not exactly a fan-fan either, but I've always loved Oxygene IV. It's so french. That one piece has more character and personality than the entire new double-album, which is saying a lot.

With Jarre, i can't help but think that he, alongside Kraftwerk, rather made synth music kind of socially acceptable, while others, mainly lesser known ambient artists, showed what's really possible with synthesizers. Or at least were much more into exploring new sonic territory, while what Jarre or Kraftwerk did was rather pop, or orchestral music, using synthesizers. I don't know if that's true, and i'm anything else but an expert in general with music, but that's how it always felt to me.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Mon Sep 05, 2016 10:11 pm

I've always thought Jarre was mediocre.

Aryaroman · Post by **Aryaroman** » Mon Sep 05, 2016 10:24 pm

chk071 wrote:With Jarre, i never really understood the hype, also not with his older albums. Just not my kind of music i guess.

Btw, with the track he made with Armin van Buuren, you wouldn't even know that Jarre was involved, if you wouldn't happen to see the track title, and credits.

Makes you wonder how he collaborated with some of the artists. The exhange probably went something like this:

Jarre sends Armin a rough sketch of a track.
"Hi Armin, here's this track I've been working on! What do you think of it? Would you like to collaborate with me on this?"

Armin sends back a completely different finished track made from scratch in 30 minutes.
"Done."

Jarre, shrugging.
"Okay..."

chk071 wrote:
Aryaroman wrote:
chk071 wrote:With Jarre, i never really understood the hype, also not with his older albums. Just not my kind of music i guess.
I'm not exactly a fan-fan either, but I've always loved Oxygene IV. It's so french. That one piece has more character and personality than the entire new double-album, which is saying a lot.
With Jarre, i can't help but think that he, alongside Kraftwerk, rather made synth music kind of socially acceptable, while others, mainly lesser known ambient artists, showed what's really possible with synthesizers. Or at least were much more into exploring new sonic territory, while what Jarre or Kraftwerk did was rather pop, or orchestral music, using synthesizers. I don't know if that's true, and i'm anything else but an expert in general with music, but that's how it always felt to me.

Well, someone would've capitalised on it and made pop with synthesisers eventually. But what's funny, is that for the broad audience, Jarre was a synonym for ambient at the time and for kids today, he's still ambient.

But to us, he is and has always been pop.

I'm not quite sure what to make of that.

One thing is for sure though, world has gotten louder.

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Mon Sep 05, 2016 10:26 pm

Jarre was always pretty average imho.

ATS · Post by **ATS** » Mon Sep 05, 2016 10:30 pm

thecontrolcentre wrote:Jarre was always pretty average imho.

i never listened to him but seems to have a lot of respect so I guess I should check him out.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Mon Sep 05, 2016 10:31 pm

zerocrossing wrote:I've always thought Jarre was mediocre.

Me too

With hype comes disappointment