Do you still use 32 bit plugins?

[wetdentist]

NEVER! bridges suck

[chk071]

 
32 bit Forever!

Absolutely no desire to move on to the 64-bit paradigm. All overhyped tech BS imo.! . .
 

It is no paradigm. It is called "progress". But i figure you were being ironic anyway.

[Schiffbauer]

 
32 bit Forever!

Absolutely no desire to move on to the 64-bit paradigm. All overhyped tech BS imo.! . .
 

It is no paradigm. It is called "progress". But i figure you were being ironic anyway.

No "progress", but own attitude and self-definition. A few weeks ago, I´ve bought on ebay some
spare parts - mainboard, processors and RAM-sticks (well - a cheap bargain), if my system could
ever have a break-down (WIN XP 32-bit, SP3, Dualcore) - so I could built a new setup again in
32-Bit - forever.....

Why should I ever need a 64-Bit system? It´s depending still on the host-DAW.
And I can even record songs only with my hardware synths - equal if 32/64-Bit.
So...some of my synths doesn´t have Midi (Crumar Multiman, Logan etc.) -
I can only play and record them in audio - should I throw them away therefore?
I can use all those wonderful and good 32-Bit plugins nowadays and in 10-15 years too.
They´re fit all my needs, have a good sound and my complete WIN 32-Bit system
(in combination with hardware) is well configurated.

Sometimes I´ve read here, 64-Bit sounds better.....hää? Some people are confound things like
16-Bit/24-Bit, 128-bit/256-Bit (mp3). It hasn´t nothing to do with the audio-quality...oh Lord.

WIth my 3GB RAM I can use some good Kontakt-Libraries too. And I´m not a Hollywood- or Soundtrack
composer to use that big Orchestra-Libraries. But I think, most of the people who changed their
system - immediately up to 64-Bit and jumped out of the window for buying, changed their system
without a head on their shoulders - are not serious musicians. Has something to do with persistence and
knowledge, not too change a well working system, that is stable and fit the personal needs.

Btw - some people are consider, they are always need the newest, expensively synths/plugins
or biggest sample-libraries, to make good music....
in fact - a good musician does only need a guitar, one synthesizer - and with some fortune,
he can rule the charts for years or have the biggest fanbase.....

Why should someone change a winning team.....
So using 32-Bit - forever - and that´s not ironic

[NAD]

NastyDLA is still my go-to delay.

[thecontrolcentre]

Why should I ever need a 64-Bit system? It´s depending still on the host-DAW.
And I can even record songs only with my hardware synths - equal if 32/64-Bit.
So...some of my synths doesn´t have Midi (Crumar Multiman, Logan etc.) -
I can only play and record them in audio - should I throw them away therefore?
I can use all those wonderful and good 32-Bit plugins nowadays and in 10-15 years too.
They´re fit all my needs, have a good sound and my complete WIN 32-Bit system
(in combination with hardware) is well configurated.

Sometimes I´ve read here, 64-Bit sounds better.....hää? Some people are confound things like
16-Bit/24-Bit, 128-bit/256-Bit (mp3). It hasn´t nothing to do with the audio-quality...oh Lord.

WIth my 3GB RAM I can use some good Kontakt-Libraries too. And I´m not a Hollywood- or Soundtrack
composer to use that big Orchestra-Libraries. But I think, most of the people who changed their
system - immediately up to 64-Bit and jumped out of the window for buying, changed their system
without a head on their shoulders - are not serious musicians. Has something to do with persistence and
knowledge, not too change a well working system, that is stable and fit the personal needs.

Btw - some people are consider, they are always need the newest, expensively synths/plugins
or biggest sample-libraries, to make good music....
in fact - a good musician does only need a guitar, one synthesizer - and with some fortune,
he can rule the charts for years or have the biggest fanbase.....

Why should someone change a winning team.....
So using 32-Bit - forever - and that´s not ironic

I felt similar until Ableton stopped supporting XP. I then chose to buy a 64 bit laptop. I had more invested in Live than in my old computer.

[chk071]

 
32 bit Forever!

Absolutely no desire to move on to the 64-bit paradigm. All overhyped tech BS imo.! . .
 

It is no paradigm. It is called "progress". But i figure you were being ironic anyway.

No "progress", but own attitude and self-definition. A few weeks ago, I´ve bought on ebay some
spare parts - mainboard, processors and RAM-sticks (well - a cheap bargain), if my system could
ever have a break-down (WIN XP 32-bit, SP3, Dualcore) - so I could built a new setup again in
32-Bit - forever.....

That's fine if it works for you. The advantages of 64-bit have been pointed out many times, and the myth that 64-bit applications wouldn't be faster than 32-bit applications in general also have been demystified (look up 64-bit computer architecture on Wikipedia, if you don't believe me). But, even if that wasn't all the case, one day, 32-bit will simply cease to exist. It is just a matter of time until that will happen, and, if your whole computer is 64-bit capable, which is true for EVERY system sold today, then there isn't much reason, at least for me, to hold onto some soon to be deprecated system. If you have some 32-bit only, not-to-replace must-have plugins which you won't want to live without, fair enough. But, apart from that, i really fail to see the rational reason to stick with it.

[Synthman2000]

I understand the move to 64bit OS and DAW, memory related mainly. However I am of the mind that when I have a sufficient system with a bit of headroom that there is a fine line between working a system you know that is stable and oft disappointing update mania.

One question: When did you ever see the performance upgrade you anticipated ? And in the rare case you did, it was likely gobbled up in a few months by a few CPU hogs that you can normally workaround anyway.

It is individual I guess, if you have the time, money and inclination to keep on the update path. I think if you build a PC from the best components available it should give you 10 years service unless you are unlucky.(ASUS MB, SSD drives, INTEL CPU, high end PSU's etc.) Configuring a DAW for success is not a small task.

[chk071]

The benefit of performance may be minimal, to non-existant. The benefit of being future-proof, and to push developers to develop future proof software, is rather the thing for me here. And for people using large sample libraries, and with a big amount of RAM, we don't have to discuss the benefits, they are obvious.

[sinkmusic]

I felt similar until Ableton stopped supporting XP. I then chose to buy a 64 bit laptop.

Same here : more and more plugins and hosts which i wish to update (or simply use) won't install on older OS : Live 9.6, Geist2, NI Replika, Elektron Overbridge (and i don't even mention video editors !)...
Of course, 32bit is fine, works great, and there is no problem with it... But the recent updates of Live seems really tasty, Geist2 seems wonderfull, and it is quite frustrating not being able to use them

[Schiffbauer]

The benefit of performance may be minimal, to non-existant. The benefit of being future-proof, and to push developers to develop future proof software, is rather the thing for me here.

You´re right chk071 and Synthman2000,

in my case, I haven´t bought my PC from the shop, instead built from "better" components for a better
and long-life performance. And this again: As I´ve wrote - I´ve bought some spare-parts from Ebay
again, if the case of PC-system-death in some years may be.

to performance: I never (very rare) reached the point of non-headroom. I have only sample-libraries,
my system can take it and the most plugins aren´t a CPU-hog. And with my DAW, i have the
habit, to freeze the midi/audiotracks (after saving the midi).
There are only a few developer these days, which bring 64-bit products on the market.
Ok - There will be more - but does i need it?
They doesn´t reinvent the wheel. I have most of that tools/VSTi´s/VST´s in 32-Bit and software
won´t break or die like hardware.

As long as I keep this system (32Bit) alive, there´s no need for an upgrade.
And someday with 80 years, I will decide surely, only to listen to music, instead of making.
As music is a matter of taste, so the decision to use a chosen PC-System and method of operating
is pure personality.

Does musicians with 32-Bit systems making worse music than musicians with 64-Bit systems?
That´s the comparision I´ve wrote in my previous post. IMO WIN XP is a "Throughout-all-time-horse",
like the Ford T-Model or the Mustang - up and running - forever

[Guenon]

That's fine if it works for you.

That sums this up perfectly for me, too. If someone doesn't need the advantages of 64-bit, it's okay and understandable. And if someone else can't do their work without 64-bit, that's equally okay and understandable - as one might need to do some things that are impossible on a 32-bit system, and are now possible through progress in computing. This doesn't imply that the output of someone not needing to use it is somehow inferior. It just means people work on different things using different methods.

It's only when one or the other tries to convince the ones who work differently that they are, in some way, misguided... things get quite "meh"

[Mister Natural]

double post

[Mister Natural]

funny that you ask as up until several weeks ago, I was 32bit.
With the transition to WIN10. I took the plunge and changed all my critical plugs to 64bit. LIVE and everything except my old Bootsie plugs, le Cab, and CamelPhat which I couldn't find my old 64 bit installer.

Frankly, everything sounds exactly the same
:=)

[SampleScience]

funny that you ask as up until several weeks ago, I was 32bit.
With the transition to WIN10. I took the plunge and changed all my critical plugs to 64bit. LIVE and everything except my old Bootsie plugs, le Cab, and CamelPhat which I couldn't find my old 64 bit installer.

Frankly, everything sounds exactly the same
:=)

Do you notice a performance difference that is related to your DAW and plugins being 64 bit?

[chk071]

funny that you ask as up until several weeks ago, I was 32bit.
With the transition to WIN10. I took the plunge and changed all my critical plugs to 64bit. LIVE and everything except my old Bootsie plugs, le Cab, and CamelPhat which I couldn't find my old 64 bit installer.

Frankly, everything sounds exactly the same
:=)

Do you notice a performance difference that is related to your DAW and plugins being 64 bit?

I didn't. Works all in the same way, as far as i'm concerned.