Is anyone feeling Punk-Hop?
- KVRAF
- 1818 posts since 5 Apr, 2002 from Seattle, WA, USA
What do you all think about Punk Hop? It's kinda like the fat beats and rap of Hip Hop meeting Pop-Punk guitars.
N.E.R.D's song "Fly Or Die" is a good and probably one of the better known examples. Some are predicting this is going to be the next big thing in pop music. There's already a lot of underground punk hop going..
N.E.R.D's song "Fly Or Die" is a good and probably one of the better known examples. Some are predicting this is going to be the next big thing in pop music. There's already a lot of underground punk hop going..
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- KVRist
- 147 posts since 2 Dec, 2002
Haven't heard anything of that sort, but do we really need another sub-genre? I mean, if people are diggin the sound, then that's cool. I just can't stand all of the sub genres (it's even worse in breaks and dnb). 
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1818 posts since 5 Apr, 2002 from Seattle, WA, USA
I agree but the genre has been existing for a number of years. It's just been pretty underground. Most of the scene is in New York, Seattle and Oakland, California but it's getting bigger.Adam_V wrote:Haven't heard anything of that sort, but do we really need another sub-genre? I mean, if people are diggin the sound, then that's cool. I just can't stand all of the sub genres (it's even worse in breaks and dnb).
The genre is called that I think to differentiate from "Rock-Rap" ala Limp Bizcut, Linkin' Park, and to a lesser extent Rage Against the Machine.
In Punk Hop, the beats are more to the front and are generally very 'phat', the guitars are more punk than metal and there is usually a 'brotha' on the microphone.
Genre-fication of music is nothing new and has beeen going on for centuries. As more people narrow down their choices and need keywords to find what they like online it is inevitable there will be more new genre terms.
Ever hear of Hick-Hop?
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- KVRAF
- 37420 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Genres shmenres - just stupid names companies make up to sell fashions.
So this year punk hop is the new grey (or whatever)
next year it will be drum n classical or something
So this year punk hop is the new grey (or whatever)
next year it will be drum n classical or something
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- KVRAF
- 7672 posts since 9 Nov, 2003 from Netherlands
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1818 posts since 5 Apr, 2002 from Seattle, WA, USA
Genres are not made up by companies. They're made up by artists. Companies just give a sound a word or more likely a 'buzzword'aMUSEd wrote:Genres shmenres - just stupid names companies make up to sell fashions.
So this year punk hop is the new grey (or whatever)
next year it will be drum n classical or something
By the way, nice sig, are you Muslim?
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- KVRist
- 147 posts since 2 Dec, 2002
Heheh.. Nope. I'm not sure if I'd want to either!Ever hear of Hick-Hop?
It's just that I feel this need to name new musical styles has some really negative effects on the music itself. In a big way, I think it limits where the music can go and how it can mutate. Y'know, like all of a sudden someone isn't as accepted or popular because they deviate from the normal accepted parameters of a given (sub) genre. I think it also contributes to a flavour-of-the-month effect, which usually consistent of blatant overuse of certain sounds and themes, generally culminates in a big popularity contest, and ends with the creation of the next big sub-genre. Consume, enjoy, repeat.
Eheheh... anyways, sorry for the threadjack Ms. J. I'm sure the sounds are pretty cool.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1818 posts since 5 Apr, 2002 from Seattle, WA, USA
Too bad. It's some of the more 'authentic' music i've heard lately. It's inspiring in attempt if not execution and is the stuff movements are made from.Adam_V wrote:Heheh.. Nope. I'm not sure if I'd want to either!Ever hear of Hick-Hop?![]()
http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=1794557
http://www.appalshop.org/h2h/
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... 4?v=glance
But you act as though this is something new. I can assure you that it is not.It's just that I feel this need to name new musical styles has some really negative effects on the music itself. In a big way, I think it limits where the music can go and how it can mutate. Y'know, like all of a sudden someone isn't as accepted or popular because they deviate from the normal accepted parameters of a given (sub) genre. I think it also contributes to a flavour-of-the-month effect, which usually consistent of blatant overuse of certain sounds and themes, generally culminates in a big popularity contest, and ends with the creation of the next big sub-genre. Consume, enjoy, repeat.
Eheheh... anyways, sorry for the threadjack Ms. J. I'm sure the sounds are pretty cool.
After all, Rock 'n Roll was at one time just a subgenre of "Race Records".People like labels and want to know what they are getting in a world full of infinte choices.
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- KVRAF
- 7672 posts since 9 Nov, 2003 from Netherlands
Did I type thatMystahr-SP wrote:You twat
Didyou go to the offie yet
Donkey made me type that
- KVRAF
- 37420 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Artists do not make up genres - artists make up new sounds in order to challenge and break out of categories - its only later when it has to be sold that a label gets stuck on it - its like Picasso was never a cubist. It seems more likely that an artist will be trying something new and the company will come up to them and say - that's different, what shall we call it, so they come up with a name. Most of these so called genres are just minor variations on a theme anyway - oh the diff between rip hop and trip hip is that in rip hop the bass goes ba be ba be do whearas in trip hip it just go's ba ba babababa be.Lady J wrote:Genres are not made up by companies. They're made up by artists. Companies just give a sound a word or more likely a 'buzzword'aMUSEd wrote:Genres shmenres - just stupid names companies make up to sell fashions.
So this year punk hop is the new grey (or whatever)
next year it will be drum n classical or something
ps as for the sig - follow the link - does it take you to a Muslim site?
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- KVRAF
- 3964 posts since 31 Aug, 2003 from In a foreign town, in a foreign land
Lock and load.Lady J wrote:Some are predicting this is going to be the next big thing in pop music.
Groet, Erik
Pop music delenda est.


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- KVRist
- 90 posts since 20 Jul, 2003
That sounds cool! Give us some more examples Lady J, i'm really interested in those bands. Although I don't think it'll be the next big thing mainly because of the MTV trends these days...
do the don't
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- KVRian
- 1411 posts since 25 Sep, 2003 from The Dirty South, USA
Yes, and you can thank (or blame) Charles Daniels for that kind of hip-hop. And lets not forget Big & Rich (Save A Horse, Ride A Cowboy).Lady J wrote:I agree but the genre has been existing for a number of years. It's just been pretty underground. Most of the scene is in New York, Seattle and Oakland, California but it's getting bigger.Adam_V wrote:Haven't heard anything of that sort, but do we really need another sub-genre? I mean, if people are diggin the sound, then that's cool. I just can't stand all of the sub genres (it's even worse in breaks and dnb).
The genre is called that I think to differentiate from "Rock-Rap" ala Limp Bizcut, Linkin' Park, and to a lesser extent Rage Against the Machine.
In Punk Hop, the beats are more to the front and are generally very 'phat', the guitars are more punk than metal and there is usually a 'brotha' on the microphone.
Genre-fication of music is nothing new and has beeen going on for centuries. As more people narrow down their choices and need keywords to find what they like online it is inevitable there will be more new genre terms.
Ever hear of Hick-Hop?
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- KVRian
- 1411 posts since 25 Sep, 2003 from The Dirty South, USA
Punk-Hop (if that is what the music media wants to call it) is my kind of rock & roll right now. This is the only reason why rock & roll is not dead yet.Lady J wrote:What do you all think about Punk Hop? It's kinda like the fat beats and rap of Hip Hop meeting Pop-Punk guitars.
N.E.R.D's song "Fly Or Die" is a good and probably one of the better known examples. Some are predicting this is going to be the next big thing in pop music. There's already a lot of underground punk hop going..
It also proves that The Neptunes/N.E.R.D. are so underrated at artists in their own right.
If you want to save rock, put the funk & the hip-hop back in it. Let people of color show you how to save it. Please find a way for synths & guitar to co-exist without hate. And finally, can these (mostly white) vocalist try to sing without yelling so much???
Rest in peace to Rick James, master of Punk-Funk.
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- KVRian
- 1219 posts since 12 Aug, 2002
Hmmm...authentic meaning what exactly, in this case?It's some of the more 'authentic' music i've heard lately. It's inspiring in attempt if not execution and is the stuff movements are made from.
And of course the last bit could either be a very good thing, or something really, really brutal.
To the mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders - Lao Tzu