Is anyone feeling Punk-Hop?

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What do you all think about Punk Hop? It's kinda like the fat beats and rap of Hip Hop meeting Pop-Punk guitars.

N.E.R.D's song "Fly Or Die" is a good and probably one of the better known examples. Some are predicting this is going to be the next big thing in pop music. There's already a lot of underground punk hop going..

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Haven't heard anything of that sort, but do we really need another sub-genre? I mean, if people are diggin the sound, then that's cool. I just can't stand all of the sub genres (it's even worse in breaks and dnb). :?

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Adam_V wrote:Haven't heard anything of that sort, but do we really need another sub-genre? I mean, if people are diggin the sound, then that's cool. I just can't stand all of the sub genres (it's even worse in breaks and dnb). :?
I agree but the genre has been existing for a number of years. It's just been pretty underground. Most of the scene is in New York, Seattle and Oakland, California but it's getting bigger.

The genre is called that I think to differentiate from "Rock-Rap" ala Limp Bizcut, Linkin' Park, and to a lesser extent Rage Against the Machine.

In Punk Hop, the beats are more to the front and are generally very 'phat', the guitars are more punk than metal and there is usually a 'brotha' on the microphone.
Genre-fication of music is nothing new and has beeen going on for centuries. As more people narrow down their choices and need keywords to find what they like online it is inevitable there will be more new genre terms.

Ever hear of Hick-Hop?
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Genres shmenres - just stupid names companies make up to sell fashions.

So this year punk hop is the new grey (or whatever)

next year it will be drum n classical or something :?

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You twat

Did :x you go to the offie yet

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aMUSEd wrote:Genres shmenres - just stupid names companies make up to sell fashions.

So this year punk hop is the new grey (or whatever)

next year it will be drum n classical or something :?
Genres are not made up by companies. They're made up by artists. Companies just give a sound a word or more likely a 'buzzword'

By the way, nice sig, are you Muslim?

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Ever hear of Hick-Hop?
Heheh.. Nope. I'm not sure if I'd want to either! :wink:

It's just that I feel this need to name new musical styles has some really negative effects on the music itself. In a big way, I think it limits where the music can go and how it can mutate. Y'know, like all of a sudden someone isn't as accepted or popular because they deviate from the normal accepted parameters of a given (sub) genre. I think it also contributes to a flavour-of-the-month effect, which usually consistent of blatant overuse of certain sounds and themes, generally culminates in a big popularity contest, and ends with the creation of the next big sub-genre. Consume, enjoy, repeat.

Eheheh... anyways, sorry for the threadjack Ms. J. I'm sure the sounds are pretty cool.

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Adam_V wrote:
Ever hear of Hick-Hop?
Heheh.. Nope. I'm not sure if I'd want to either! :wink:
Too bad. It's some of the more 'authentic' music i've heard lately. It's inspiring in attempt if not execution and is the stuff movements are made from.
http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=1794557
http://www.appalshop.org/h2h/
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... 4?v=glance
It's just that I feel this need to name new musical styles has some really negative effects on the music itself. In a big way, I think it limits where the music can go and how it can mutate. Y'know, like all of a sudden someone isn't as accepted or popular because they deviate from the normal accepted parameters of a given (sub) genre. I think it also contributes to a flavour-of-the-month effect, which usually consistent of blatant overuse of certain sounds and themes, generally culminates in a big popularity contest, and ends with the creation of the next big sub-genre. Consume, enjoy, repeat.

Eheheh... anyways, sorry for the threadjack Ms. J. I'm sure the sounds are pretty cool.
But you act as though this is something new. I can assure you that it is not.
After all, Rock 'n Roll was at one time just a subgenre of "Race Records".People like labels and want to know what they are getting in a world full of infinte choices.
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Mystahr-SP wrote:You twat

Did :x you go to the offie yet
Did I type that :shock:

Donkey made me type that :P

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Lady J wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:Genres shmenres - just stupid names companies make up to sell fashions.

So this year punk hop is the new grey (or whatever)

next year it will be drum n classical or something :?
Genres are not made up by companies. They're made up by artists. Companies just give a sound a word or more likely a 'buzzword'
Artists do not make up genres - artists make up new sounds in order to challenge and break out of categories - its only later when it has to be sold that a label gets stuck on it - its like Picasso was never a cubist. It seems more likely that an artist will be trying something new and the company will come up to them and say - that's different, what shall we call it, so they come up with a name. Most of these so called genres are just minor variations on a theme anyway - oh the diff between rip hop and trip hip is that in rip hop the bass goes ba be ba be do whearas in trip hip it just go's ba ba babababa be.

ps as for the sig - follow the link - does it take you to a Muslim site?

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Lady J wrote:Some are predicting this is going to be the next big thing in pop music.
Lock and load.

Groet, Erik
Pop music delenda est.
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That sounds cool! Give us some more examples Lady J, i'm really interested in those bands. Although I don't think it'll be the next big thing mainly because of the MTV trends these days...
do the don't

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Lady J wrote:
Adam_V wrote:Haven't heard anything of that sort, but do we really need another sub-genre? I mean, if people are diggin the sound, then that's cool. I just can't stand all of the sub genres (it's even worse in breaks and dnb). :?
I agree but the genre has been existing for a number of years. It's just been pretty underground. Most of the scene is in New York, Seattle and Oakland, California but it's getting bigger.

The genre is called that I think to differentiate from "Rock-Rap" ala Limp Bizcut, Linkin' Park, and to a lesser extent Rage Against the Machine.

In Punk Hop, the beats are more to the front and are generally very 'phat', the guitars are more punk than metal and there is usually a 'brotha' on the microphone.
Genre-fication of music is nothing new and has beeen going on for centuries. As more people narrow down their choices and need keywords to find what they like online it is inevitable there will be more new genre terms.

Ever hear of Hick-Hop?
Yes, and you can thank (or blame) Charles Daniels for that kind of hip-hop. And lets not forget Big & Rich (Save A Horse, Ride A Cowboy).:D
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Lady J wrote:What do you all think about Punk Hop? It's kinda like the fat beats and rap of Hip Hop meeting Pop-Punk guitars.

N.E.R.D's song "Fly Or Die" is a good and probably one of the better known examples. Some are predicting this is going to be the next big thing in pop music. There's already a lot of underground punk hop going..
Punk-Hop (if that is what the music media wants to call it) is my kind of rock & roll right now. This is the only reason why rock & roll is not dead yet. :)

It also proves that The Neptunes/N.E.R.D. are so underrated at artists in their own right. :)

If you want to save rock, put the funk & the hip-hop back in it. Let people of color show you how to save it. Please find a way for synths & guitar to co-exist without hate. And finally, can these (mostly white) vocalist try to sing without yelling so much??? :?

Rest in peace to Rick James, master of Punk-Funk. :wink:
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It's some of the more 'authentic' music i've heard lately. It's inspiring in attempt if not execution and is the stuff movements are made from.
Hmmm...authentic meaning what exactly, in this case?



And of course the last bit could either be a very good thing, or something really, really brutal.
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