There is something really nice about the filter, although I haven't used Pro-53 for a long time, I still like using the filter in Kontakt.Synthman2000 wrote:Still running NI Pro-53 here and love it.
Repro-1 (out now)
- KVRAF
- 2247 posts since 25 Feb, 2005 from Ganymede
- u-he
- Topic Starter
- 30193 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Here's something where I had some fun adding some internal effects to an otherwise pretty solid bass sound. First part is just delay (but not just some delay... you'll hear it...). Last bit adds an effect that we lovingly call "Jaws" before the delay - a name that certainly suits the process:
http://uhesongs.heckmannaudiogmb.netdna ... _Repro.mp3
Just in case anyone wondered what the effects would be like. No external effects used, no eq.
This is of course in no way representative for the overall character of Repro-1. It's just something I came across which I couldn't resist posting
http://uhesongs.heckmannaudiogmb.netdna ... _Repro.mp3
Just in case anyone wondered what the effects would be like. No external effects used, no eq.
This is of course in no way representative for the overall character of Repro-1. It's just something I came across which I couldn't resist posting
- KVRAF
- 25849 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
The Pro filter is also included in Guitar Rig Player, so anybody can use it for freeAstralp wrote:There is something really nice about the filter, although I haven't used Pro-53 for a long time, I still like using the filter in Kontakt.
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- KVRian
- 1185 posts since 27 Apr, 2016
It is a bit thin in itself but give it a poke with an EQ and it takes it very well indeed, brings it up to snuff with the fatter of todays synths. I think I bring it out for every track I have started. It does not always make it to the end but it sometimes fits just right. Like all synths in a hectic full mix.
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- Topic Starter
- 30193 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
I'm not sure we have the same definition of thin, hehehe.Synthman2000 wrote:It is a bit thin in itself but give it a poke with an EQ and it takes it very well indeed, brings it up to snuff with the fatter of todays synths. I think I bring it out for every track I have started. It does not always make it to the end but it sometimes fits just right. Like all synths in a hectic full mix.
- u-he
- Topic Starter
- 30193 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
- KVRAF
- 6466 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York
I find the high frequencies of the Pro53 painful to listen to. I am not sure if there is aliasing or something else going on.
- KVRAF
- 4141 posts since 11 Aug, 2006 from Texas
Jaws is awesome! I hope that (or something similar) makes it into the Z3 grid...(sorry for the OT)Urs wrote:Last bit adds an effect that we lovingly call "Jaws" before the delay
Feel free to call me Brian.
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- KVRAF
- 1586 posts since 7 Jun, 2007
Ah, effects...very nice dubby delay! Thanks for posting that!
That brings me to a somewhat OT subject, a new FX plugin proposal:
I'd love to see all the u-he synths' effects available in a modular effect "rack" for lack of a better word. Combine that with filter modules and a few (4?) LFOs and MSEGs with patch cables to effect parameters, volume, pan, etc, to keep things lively. That's a product I'd be very interested in.
It wouldn't replace the Uhbiks or necessarily compete with them, but would rather just group the filters and effects from ACE, Diva, Hive, RePro (and Bazille?..assuming Sascha's effects are yours to repackage as you like) with patchable modulation sources into a one-stop audio processing package. Maybe distill a compression algorithm from Presswerk for the bundle too?
I just think that it's currently a bit unfortunate that each synth has its own flavor effects, which are all extremely good, but they're not available for anything else (until audio input is implemented in each synth...which might take a while, or not at all).
I haven't included Zebra because Zebrify is part of the Zebra package already. Anyway, just a thought
Back to RePro...
That brings me to a somewhat OT subject, a new FX plugin proposal:
I'd love to see all the u-he synths' effects available in a modular effect "rack" for lack of a better word. Combine that with filter modules and a few (4?) LFOs and MSEGs with patch cables to effect parameters, volume, pan, etc, to keep things lively. That's a product I'd be very interested in.
It wouldn't replace the Uhbiks or necessarily compete with them, but would rather just group the filters and effects from ACE, Diva, Hive, RePro (and Bazille?..assuming Sascha's effects are yours to repackage as you like) with patchable modulation sources into a one-stop audio processing package. Maybe distill a compression algorithm from Presswerk for the bundle too?
I just think that it's currently a bit unfortunate that each synth has its own flavor effects, which are all extremely good, but they're not available for anything else (until audio input is implemented in each synth...which might take a while, or not at all).
I haven't included Zebra because Zebrify is part of the Zebra package already. Anyway, just a thought
Back to RePro...
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- KVRian
- 969 posts since 5 Sep, 2014 from Heaven
Wow "Jaws" has a REALLY wide mouthUrs wrote:Here's something where I had some fun adding some internal effects to an otherwise pretty solid bass sound. First part is just delay (but not just some delay... you'll hear it...). Last bit adds an effect that we lovingly call "Jaws" before the delay - a name that certainly suits the process:
http://uhesongs.heckmannaudiogmb.netdna ... _Repro.mp3
Just in case anyone wondered what the effects would be like. No external effects used, no eq.
This is of course in no way representative for the overall character of Repro-1. It's just something I came across which I couldn't resist posting
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- 12023 posts since 12 May, 2008
Yeah I never understood why people needed more than one note at a time on a piano or guitar at a time. I mean a singer only plays one note, same with a trumpet! So why the heck does a piano need more than one note?!Elektronisch wrote:This is a ridiculous and ignorant statement.spunkmuffin wrote:Haha you people who want poly:
It's like you hear someone singing beautifully on their own and then want to put them in a choir because you think they will sound better that way.
I find it hilarious that Urs said people actually requested mono. So what are they actually asking for? They are asking to not have a single switch on the gui that makes it poly. How is that worth requesting? You can use a synth in mono mode just fine, why would you request that limitation? They can chose to only use mono only. If you are actually selfish enough to request mono only, what you are really doing is asking the developer to prevent other people from playing polyphonically. It doesn't affect you at all. I find this insane.
This is criticism of Urs since the only reason you need is cost if you want to sell it in a certain price range. Just of crazies who want mono only.
- KVRAF
- 26951 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Yeah, why would I ever want to buy a screwdriver when I can have a Leatherman. The thing is, the Leatherman, while doing many things, does not do each of those things as well as a dedicated tool.Echoes in the Attic wrote:
Yeah I never understood why people needed more than one note at a time on a piano or guitar at a time. I mean a singer only plays one note, same with a trumpet! So why the heck does a piano need more than one note?!
I find it hilarious that Urs said people actually requested mono. So what are they actually asking for? They are asking to not have a single switch on the gui that makes it poly. How is that worth requesting? You can use a synth in mono mode just fine, why would you request that limitation? They can chose to only use mono only. If you are actually selfish enough to request mono only, what you are really doing is asking the developer to prevent other people from playing polyphonically. It doesn't affect you at all. I find this insane.
This is criticism of Urs since the only reason you need is cost if you want to sell it in a certain price range. Just of crazies who want mono only.
I cannot speak for why each individual might ask for mono, but it seems to me that focusing on and prioritizing a monophonic sound has its own logic. To optimize for monophonic does not mean it works well for polyphonic.
I think it is good to consider why there are so many monophonic synths and so much monophonic modular gear. It is not just cost. Maybe there is something people like about it.
Also, I completely disagree that asking for monophonic is insane. Pretty much every synth is polyphonic. It is like you (people who insist it must be polyphonic) already have 90% of the territory, but you insist that it must be 100%. Leave one little corner that isn't polyphonic. Why does every last corner have to be forced how you want it? Can't there be some differences and diversity?
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- KVRian
- 1185 posts since 27 Apr, 2016
Yes, sorry Pro-53 gets brought out a lot and is a little thin at times but EQ sorts it out nicely without sounding contrived. It might be the way the filter resolution vs knob works. And a bit of filter stepping can be audible at high resonance but this can actually create a nice overtone effect. Many presets also have HPF engaged which might suggest it sounds thin. And yes like many older VST synths a leaky HPF where some crunchy computer-y highs still make it through. But it has very good ranges and "sweet spots" I think you guys like to call it here.
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