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hao nao · Post by **hao nao** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 9:02 am

Lady J wrote:What do you all think about Punk Hop? It's kinda like the fat beats and rap of Hip Hop meeting Pop-Punk guitars.

N.E.R.D's song "Fly Or Die" is a good and probably one of the better known examples. Some are predicting this is going to be the next big thing in pop music. There's already a lot of underground punk hop going..

I'm all for complex beats and eclecticism

Thanks for mentioning N.E.R.D.

I looked them up on Rhapsody and am really enjoying their music

hao nao · Post by **hao nao** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 9:07 am

aMUSEd wrote:Genres shmenres - just stupid names companies make up to sell fashions.

So this year punk hop is the new grey (or whatever)

next year it will be drum n classical or something

I swear I posted my drum & chamber piece before this -- wasn't trying to be trendy

Sam C Spacey · Post by **Sam C Spacey** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 9:52 am

We used to allways take the piss out of the dnb boys (mate producers), saying that the new genre of dnb was " Bum and Bass, JunGaylistic". Childish I know.....

Kim Lajoie · Post by **Kim Lajoie** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 11:48 am

TonyVanDam wrote:Let people of color show you how to save it.

WTF?

Forever,

Kim.

crazed one · Post by **crazed one** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 6:28 pm

Jeez wrote:
TonyVanDam wrote:Let people of color show you how to save it.
WTF?

Forever,

Kim.

That was a pretty funky statement wasn't it?

So modern rock is doomed without the blacks huh? And whites need to stop yelling so much because they can't sing. I'll keep that in mind.

Lady J · Post by **Lady J** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 6:39 pm

Oh and the genres don't end. Apperantly there is a new subgenre of Hip Hop, RnB called Crunk. Ever hear of it?

http://www.sohh.com/thewire/read.php?contentID=5374
http://slate.msn.com/id/2103955/
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=crunk

donkey tugger · Post by **donkey tugger** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 6:43 pm

Never heard of it, but the 'Grim' (errr, UK garridge and goth) is coming on nicely.

Steven West · Post by **Steven West** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 6:47 pm

I'm just waiting for Spunk Rock, Spooge Grooves, and Soulcum music.

But if you want the REAL shit...
www.soundclick.com/captaincecilandthebrowntrouts

Try to wipe that off your list.

crazed one · Post by **crazed one** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 6:54 pm

Lady J wrote:Oh and the genres don't end. Apperantly there is a new subgenre of Hip Hop, RnB called Crunk. Ever hear of it?

http://www.sohh.com/thewire/read.php?contentID=5374
http://slate.msn.com/id/2103955/
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=crunk

It's a style now? I just remember fools saying it as a word, now it's a genre?

HanafiH · Post by **HanafiH** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 6:54 pm

donkey tugger wrote:Never heard of it, but the 'Grim' (errr, UK garridge and goth) is coming on nicely.

I think you'll find that's 'Grime' also known as Sub-low.

In point of fact the basis of musical genre classification in the west is the International Library services who need categories to index and retrieve works in a structured form. The current convential classification is a kind of home-grown Internat tradition that has evolved off that. Music critics also play an important role in defining genre names, as do the names given to 'scenes' in which new genres become identified.

Lady J · Post by **Lady J** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 6:56 pm

One thing I find interesting with both trends, Punk Hop and Crunk is that it is like a recognition that Hip Hop and RnB's laid back kinda vibe beat and soundwise was very limiting. So the Punk Hop acts have beats that are like 110-180bpm and loud guitars, and the Crunk people have a lot of really abrasive bass sounds and choruses which feature a whole crowd shouting.

It's almost like everyone suddenly realized that American urban music needed to get a lot more amped up and rowdy to keep from getting boring.

Lady J · Post by **Lady J** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 7:01 pm

Speedbass, is that genre still around? And what was that about? Where was it based?

HanafiH · Post by **HanafiH** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 7:04 pm

Cross-genre dressing.

Curiously the Guardian has an article on radical(ish) musicians who like really unradical music.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/features ... 46,00.html

Danny Macnamara, Embrace likes Barry Manilow, Made It Through The Rain
Daniel Ryan, The Thrills likes Electric Light Orchestra, Telephone Line
The Rasmus likes The Bangles, Eternal Flame
Tim Burgess, The Charlatans likes The Carpenters, A Song For You
Charlotte Hatherley, Ash likes Paul McCartney, Say Say Say
Tony Lundon, Liberty X likes Vivaldi, Four Seasons, played by Nigel Kennedy
Stuart Murdoch, Belle & Sebastian likes Tallulah Gosh, Tallulah Gosh
Jaff, The Futureheads likes Cliff Richard, Wired For Sound
Keisha, Sugababes likes Christina Aguilera, All I Want Is You
Kele, Bloc Party likes The Backstreet Boys, I Want It That Way
Sam Herlihy, Hope Of The States likes Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers, Into The Great Wide Open
Jamelia likes The Tweenies, Friends Forever
Preston, The Ordinary Boys likes Dukes of Stratosphear, Chips And The Chocolate Fireball
Sean Rowley likes Ronan Keating, Life Is A Rollercoaster
Erlend Øye, Kings Of Convenience likes Bronski Beat, Smalltown Boy
Gabriel Andruzzi, The Rapture likes The Macarena
Mike Lewis, Lostprophets likes Phil Collins, Greatest Hits

TVD · Post by **TVD** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 7:06 pm

TonyVanDam wrote:
Lady J wrote:What do you all think about Punk Hop? It's kinda like the fat beats and rap of Hip Hop meeting Pop-Punk guitars.

N.E.R.D's song "Fly Or Die" is a good and probably one of the better known examples. Some are predicting this is going to be the next big thing in pop music. There's already a lot of underground punk hop going..
Punk-Hop (if that is what the music media wants to call it) is my kind of rock & roll right now. This is the only reason why rock & roll is not dead yet.

It also proves that The Neptunes/N.E.R.D. are so underrated at artists in their own right.

If you want to save rock, put the funk & the hip-hop back in it. Let people of color show you how to save it. Please find a way for synths & guitar to co-exist without hate. And finally, can these (mostly white) vocalist try to sing without yelling so much???

Rest in peace to Rick James, master of Punk-Funk.

All I'm saying is let us all make rock fun again. Let make rock into a better image. I wanna rock happy and not angry, depress, or sad all the damn time.

And yes, let people of color (OutKast, The Neptunes, Prince, etc.) help you more.

Lady J · Post by **Lady J** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 7:09 pm

heh, most people like some 'non-radical music' Liam from the Prodigy likes Gloria Estefan. I like Enrico Iglesias and Christina Aguilera.

HanafiH wrote:Cross-genre dressing.

Curiously the Guardian has an article on radical(ish) musicians who like really unradical music.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/features ... 46,00.html

Danny Macnamara, Embrace likes Barry Manilow, Made It Through The Rain
Daniel Ryan, The Thrills likes Electric Light Orchestra, Telephone Line
The Rasmus likes The Bangles, Eternal Flame
Tim Burgess, The Charlatans likes The Carpenters, A Song For You
Charlotte Hatherley, Ash likes Paul McCartney, Say Say Say
Tony Lundon, Liberty X likes Vivaldi, Four Seasons, played by Nigel Kennedy
Stuart Murdoch, Belle & Sebastian likes Tallulah Gosh, Tallulah Gosh
Jaff, The Futureheads likes Cliff Richard, Wired For Sound
Keisha, Sugababes likes Christina Aguilera, All I Want Is You
Kele, Bloc Party likes The Backstreet Boys, I Want It That Way
Sam Herlihy, Hope Of The States likes Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers, Into The Great Wide Open
Jamelia likes The Tweenies, Friends Forever
Preston, The Ordinary Boys likes Dukes of Stratosphear, Chips And The Chocolate Fireball
Sean Rowley likes Ronan Keating, Life Is A Rollercoaster
Erlend Øye, Kings Of Convenience likes Bronski Beat, Smalltown Boy
Gabriel Andruzzi, The Rapture likes The Macarena
Mike Lewis, Lostprophets likes Phil Collins, Greatest Hits

Is anyone feeling Punk-Hop?