Izotope releases Neutron: "A smarter way to mix"
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- KVRian
- 1166 posts since 24 Jul, 2008 from England
I'm discovering how the smart assistant works a little. In the case it thinks 'drums', with default track assistant mode settings the compressor will have 1.65ms attack, 592ms release, 5:1 ratio and approx -20dB threshold. I'm on to you 
The EQ is slightly cleverer, & it works better with some pre-processing. If you just slap Neutron on a raw, unprocessed source, it tends to keep or even boost low and high end. Not really helpful in a lot of cases. However, if you shelve it off with highpass and lowpass pre-Neutron, then run track assistant, it shapes the EQ to mimic the material's spectral content a lot better, whilst trying to fix potential issues.
It definitely can't mix for you, but it can sort of 'learn' from whatever material you feed it. I've had some fun continuously processing material and re-running the track assistant to see what it does differently, and am starting to believe iZotope are on to something. Although I still believe there should be a way to integrate presets into track assistance, so it better understands the aesthetic you are trying to achieve.
The EQ is slightly cleverer, & it works better with some pre-processing. If you just slap Neutron on a raw, unprocessed source, it tends to keep or even boost low and high end. Not really helpful in a lot of cases. However, if you shelve it off with highpass and lowpass pre-Neutron, then run track assistant, it shapes the EQ to mimic the material's spectral content a lot better, whilst trying to fix potential issues.
It definitely can't mix for you, but it can sort of 'learn' from whatever material you feed it. I've had some fun continuously processing material and re-running the track assistant to see what it does differently, and am starting to believe iZotope are on to something. Although I still believe there should be a way to integrate presets into track assistance, so it better understands the aesthetic you are trying to achieve.
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- KVRAF
- 6287 posts since 8 Jul, 2009
I to, think Neutron has merit. It provides an interesting optional sound for each track and so far as enabled me to improve my mixes by providing a viable starting point. or not - sometimes it doesnt hint at an improvement. I think of it as a kind of random-but-in-the-ballpark option that I can then use (or not) with or without tweeking it. its an interesting option to help the creative process.
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- Banned
- 245 posts since 22 Oct, 2014
Mabe im thumb, but i will hear not difference with thois!!!!!!
Or it is like make a EQ here a little bit mucher loud and here a little bit not so loaud....
i am thumb?
I hear no difffernzeies, or nothingi would saying "it now better!"???
But i belive! Do you see: Tghis plugin makes it magic? Mabe this is more make for cd-pressing?
A friend will me produce (only 270€ all my son, but he say this is not good....) Now i confusinhg!
Or it is like make a EQ here a little bit mucher loud and here a little bit not so loaud....
i am thumb?
I hear no difffernzeies, or nothingi would saying "it now better!"???
But i belive! Do you see: Tghis plugin makes it magic? Mabe this is more make for cd-pressing?
A friend will me produce (only 270€ all my son, but he say this is not good....) Now i confusinhg!
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- KVRAF
- 2311 posts since 27 Jan, 2011
I know that Neutron is supposed to be about custom, AI-generated chains as opposed to presets, but I'd like to explore the latter which are supposed to ship with Neutron. Trouble is I can't find them. I'm using the Advanced demo.
The manual, on page 55, says
"Neutron ships with hundreds of presets, covering both common and creative use cases for all manner of music and post-production scenarios. Clicking the Preset Manager button or clicking the text displaying “Presets” brings up the Preset Manager window. Clicking on any preset in the list will immediately apply the associated parameters to all of the controllers in the Neutron plug-in."
The problem is, the preset manager -- both on my screen and in the manual's illustration -- doesn't show any -- there is no list.
The manual then says that "The presets used in Neutron are stored on disk:
• Windows: C:\Users\<your_user_name>\Documents\iZotope\Neutron\Global Presets"
In Windows Explorer I see this directory and its subdirectories; however
-- they only contain a few, 1kb xml files
--I can't figure out how to navigate to these folders within the preset manager. It seems to have no browser facility.
Finding and loading presets is usually pretty straightforward, both with other Izotope products like Nectar, and well, with tons of plugins actually. But this is stumping me. Maybe I'm overlooking something basic; or maybe I'm looking for something which isn't there i.e. the demo doesn't ship with presets. Dunno.
Any advice?
The manual, on page 55, says
"Neutron ships with hundreds of presets, covering both common and creative use cases for all manner of music and post-production scenarios. Clicking the Preset Manager button or clicking the text displaying “Presets” brings up the Preset Manager window. Clicking on any preset in the list will immediately apply the associated parameters to all of the controllers in the Neutron plug-in."
The problem is, the preset manager -- both on my screen and in the manual's illustration -- doesn't show any -- there is no list.
The manual then says that "The presets used in Neutron are stored on disk:
• Windows: C:\Users\<your_user_name>\Documents\iZotope\Neutron\Global Presets"
In Windows Explorer I see this directory and its subdirectories; however
-- they only contain a few, 1kb xml files
--I can't figure out how to navigate to these folders within the preset manager. It seems to have no browser facility.
Finding and loading presets is usually pretty straightforward, both with other Izotope products like Nectar, and well, with tons of plugins actually. But this is stumping me. Maybe I'm overlooking something basic; or maybe I'm looking for something which isn't there i.e. the demo doesn't ship with presets. Dunno.
Any advice?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tDj_Van ... uNbgY-4qFK
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Circumcision's just another way of saying 'bye to the 'hood
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- KVRAF
- 2311 posts since 27 Jan, 2011
Bizarre ... I know what to look for, but am not seeing it ... Could you please maybe post a screengrab showing them and / or the browser? Sorry to be so thick. I've written Izotope but they're sleeping. (I'm not, I'm playing with Neutron!)macmuse wrote:The demo definitely has presets, and does have a browser when opened, the standard Izotope-style.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tDj_Van ... uNbgY-4qFK
Circumcision's just another way of saying 'bye to the 'hood
Circumcision's just another way of saying 'bye to the 'hood
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- KVRist
- 146 posts since 19 Mar, 2004 from Italy
Same here: I can't see any preset. I thought they didn't provide any because of the track assistant 
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- KVRian
- 1016 posts since 16 Aug, 2010 from almost everywhere...
Kudos to Melissa, Ryan and the rest of the iZotope staff for supplying me quickly with a patch that worked on my workplace computer.soulone82 wrote: I´ve also reported issues with Windows 7 and hope they can be fixed quickly as I already bought the product.
Yesterday I´ve installed Neutron Advanced using the original installer on my studio computer and it went smooth as always. So something´s wrong with my workplace computer it seems...
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- KVRian
- 623 posts since 19 Feb, 2011
Ok.. i just saw "Neutrino for free" on the Izotpoe website.
But when i click on it: "We are sorry, we were unable to redeem a serial number for you at this time. Please try again later."
(Neutrino = Small Neutron)
Is the website overrun..?
But when i click on it: "We are sorry, we were unable to redeem a serial number for you at this time. Please try again later."
(Neutrino = Small Neutron)
Is the website overrun..?
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- KVRAF
- 2311 posts since 27 Jan, 2011
Thanks. That's what I was expecting to see. Instead I see only thispekbro wrote:Preset screenshot...
Basically the same presets from Alloy 2...
http://screencast-o-matic.com/watch/cD6iIHjwao
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tDj_Van ... uNbgY-4qFK
Circumcision's just another way of saying 'bye to the 'hood
Circumcision's just another way of saying 'bye to the 'hood
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- KVRAF
- 2311 posts since 27 Jan, 2011
Update: Izotope replied suggesting a reinstall. That fixed it. Props to them for doing it so quicklylingyai wrote:Thanks. That's what I was expecting to see. Instead I see only thispekbro wrote:Preset screenshot...
Basically the same presets from Alloy 2...
http://screencast-o-matic.com/watch/cD6iIHjwao
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tDj_Van ... uNbgY-4qFK
Circumcision's just another way of saying 'bye to the 'hood
Circumcision's just another way of saying 'bye to the 'hood
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- KVRist
- 418 posts since 26 Feb, 2007
Am deciding on Standard vs Advanced.
The only benefit for me with Advanced would be if there is significant CPU savings using the individual plugins.
I'd think that just loading Standard and only selecting, e.g., the EQ, as the sole active module would only be a tiny bit more CPU than loading the separate individual EQ plugin.
Does anybody have some experience-based info re: this?
The only benefit for me with Advanced would be if there is significant CPU savings using the individual plugins.
I'd think that just loading Standard and only selecting, e.g., the EQ, as the sole active module would only be a tiny bit more CPU than loading the separate individual EQ plugin.
Does anybody have some experience-based info re: this?