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Touch The Universe wrote:Cool. Can you expand any on how unison is implemented?
You can select the number of unison voices for each oscillator. If you apply phase modulation, every unison voice gets its own modulator, so no inharmonic cancellation happens.
When you select a multi-sample, unison is also applicable. This allows for very broad sound, if you choose a multi-sample that already contains unison and additionally use 8x unison.


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The arpeggiator. Either in pattern mode or import/export MIDI files.

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KBSoundSmith wrote:
parawave wrote: I don't know. Maybe you could come up with a price tag?
Based on the specs I see here, and setting a price based on similar offerings, most customers (if they're being realistic) would expect to pay between $150 - 250 for this. I'd consider pricing it at the high end, around $250, but no less than $200 if you can't stomach charging $250. Unless you're into discounting to drive sales, don't offer it for $150.

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LOL, are you kidding ? With Avenger coming at less than $200, there is no way this one can be set at $250, unless this one does sound much better, or the author wants to sell about zero copies.

Remember the fate of the delay plugin whose author sold at $59, then at $300 ? Well very simple, on all forums, be it KVR or Gearslutz, nobody talked ever about the plugin, only about its ridiculous pricing. I can tell you this guy probably didn't sell his plugin at all, so he worked for months for basically nothing.
KBSoundSmith wrote: I can see why you'd feel that way. I simply place a higher value on its multi-sample capability. Given that, putting it up on the higher end seems reasonable to me. In a lot of ways, RAPID bares some resemblance to Alchemy (which was $250), minus the spectral editing and MSEGs and some other modulation capabilities. Given that, I don't think a minimum $200 price would be unfair.
It's not about fairness, it's about the competition, and unless Vengeance announced a fake price in order for people to wait until their release, you need to align yourself if you want to survive in this overcrowded market. I think the already stated price of around $130-160 is the right bracket for this synth.

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lolilol1975 wrote:.. With Avenger coming at less than $200, there is no way this one can be set at $250..
Do you have a verified source for that?

If it's just about the price difference between RAPID and Avenger, the so called "competition" I think no matter what we do, they will try to subdue our market price, it's just the fear of direct competition.
There was RAPID alpha video material out there before Avenger wasn't even announced. If you put one and one together, you will understand the coherence of things, and sudden burst of promo material from our competitor ;D

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parawave wrote:
lolilol1975 wrote:.. With Avenger coming at less than $200, there is no way this one can be set at $250..
Do you have a verified source for that?
It has been written by msvs on the Avenger thread and then confirmed a second time. If you look for his message, you should be able to find it.

edit: Found. I'm sorry, it was less than €200 not $200
Sorry for the mistake.

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parawave wrote:
lolilol1975 wrote:.. With Avenger coming at less than $200, there is no way this one can be set at $250..
Do you have a verified source for that?

If it's just about the price difference between RAPID and Avenger, the so called "competition" I think no matter what we do, they will try to subdue our market price, it's just the fear of direct competition.
There was RAPID alpha video material out there before Avenger wasn't even announced. If you put one and one together, you will understand the coherence of things, and sudden burst of promo material from our competitor ;D
Lol.. Manuel said Avenger has been developed 3 years full time. Now it is near to be ready, time to promo it. Sounds quite logical to me.. And what he said about price, under 199€, it means they are not so stupid than you are. They know market and other competitors.. Little ot, after reading your messages in this thread, do you even know what picture you give yourself to us? You constantly belittle others, just like this your statement here. Don't be a dick, you want people to buy your expensive synth :roll:

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lolilol1975 wrote:edit: Found. I'm sorry, it was less than €200 not $200
Sorry for the mistake.
No problem here, thank you for clearing up that situation and linking the post.
keel wrote:And what he said about price, under 199€ .. You constantly belittle others, just like this your statement here. Don't be a dick, you want people to buy your expensive synth :roll:
I wan't to make sure people get the correct information. Instead of discussing features, there were at least 5 pages of discussion about pricing models. And I have to justify about our price range (which by the way is not even announced) and read about competitor prices that are not valid? How do you even can claim RAPID is expensive? Not mentioned a price ONCE if you have forgotten. Not fair if you ask me. Instead of objective critics you call me stupid. Seems you are the one who belittle people.
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parawave wrote:Not mentioned a price ONCE if you have forgotten.
maybe not you but he did: http://imgur.com/a/GaXMa

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frizzbee wrote:
parawave wrote:Not mentioned a price ONCE if you have forgotten.
maybe not you but he did: http://imgur.com/a/GaXMa
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Yes, then why not show the whole thing, because apparently we are also from http://www.nativeinstruments.de, which is not true. I don't have to justify for mistakes an editor makes.
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parawave wrote:Yes, then why not show the whole thing, because apparently we are also from http://www.nativeinstruments.de, which is not true. I don't have to justify for mistakes an editor makes.
you're right. Mirko also wrote it's not from NI... ...but he did not write they we're wrong with the price, too :wink:
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This synth sounds amazing, despite all this money talk. If you can't afford it atm, save up for it. Simple.. Anyways it's been a few days, can you release it already for those of us who are ready to purchase it ;)
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This here is so disrespectful to not only parawave, but to all software developers that invest their time and work to bring us users tools, which we might decide to use and buy or not.

I feel pity for every software developer, engineer, and, that's funny, I'll say this the first time in my life, I feel sorry for business men, young, and all passionate geniuses, burning for their work

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nineofkings wrote:The argument that this is a preset machine like Nexus frankly seems completely disconnected from reality.
+1
Geez how the f**k was the comparison even made....?
Im guessing that helped to muddy the waters of the price point discussion.

Im suspecting this will be pretty great. Not sure what a fair price point is, but the competitions is deep.

I agree the skin is not great. The layout is.
Make some alternate textures, or make it skinnable, to keep that from turning people away.
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TabSel wrote:This here is so disrespectful to not only parawave, but to all software developers that invest their time and work to bring us users tools, which we might decide to use and buy or not.

I feel pity for every software developer, engineer, and, that's funny, I'll say this the first time in my life, I feel sorry for business men, young, and all passionate geniuses, burning for their work
You mean... i won't get this thing for free??

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frizzbee wrote:
parawave wrote:Yes, then why not show the whole thing, because apparently we are also from http://www.nativeinstruments.de, which is not true. I don't have to justify for mistakes an editor makes.
you're right. Mirko also wrote it's not from NI... ...but he did not wrote they we're wrong with the price, too :wink:
This was an interview about sound design techniques, not an official price announcment. I'm also not very happy about that. Don't start another 5 pages of price discussion please ;D

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Totally forgot to show it. Left side the preset browser, right side a mixer for every layer, and a multiband compressor, to polishing your sound. With settable modes (internal release and ratio values). Below that a keyrange to easily realize splitted sounds or more advanced sound designs. At the bottom the quick modifiers e.g. the cutoff knob is pre-linked to all layer filters. A very quick way to control your sounds.

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