Call to Arms: Charity 2016 ($33364 raised.)

[thecontrolcentre]

Wow, that's above the regular price (99$).

If only the devs donate the products this would be a bit one sided. As long as you pay the full price or below it the bidder doesn't "really" donate anything. Or do I understand this concept wrong?

You're wrong.

Every year, most people buy at 30-40-50-60% off the real price in this charity. That's why it's successful.

The devs donate products, the bidders donate their cash. Essentially everyone donates something.

Mh, I actually "buy" a product at a "lower price". Can't see any donation from the bidders side here. Don't get the logic behind this. I can't see why I shouldn't pay the full price for the full product (unless there are some special NFR resitrictions). Anyway, happy bidding.

I understand your point, but if there were no 'bargains' to be had then Luftrum would just be asking for donations. This way we (the devs) can raise more money for charity. But if anyone wants to donate more than the product they are bidding on costs normally, that's fine too.

[EdSevered]

Wow, that's above the regular price (99$).

If only the devs donate the products this would be a bit one sided. As long as you pay the full price or below it the bidder doesn't "really" donate anything. Or do I understand this concept wrong?

You're wrong.

Every year, most people buy at 30-40-50-60% off the real price in this charity. That's why it's successful.

The devs donate products, the bidders donate their cash. Essentially everyone donates something.

Mh, I actually "buy" a product at a "lower price". Can't see any donation from the bidders side here. Don't get the logic behind this. I can't see why I shouldn't pay the full price for the full product (unless there are some special NFR resitrictions). Anyway, happy bidding.

I understand your point, but if there were no 'bargains' to be had then Luftrum would just be asking for donations. This way we (the devs) can raise more money for charity. But if anyone wants to donate more than the product they are bidding on costs normally, that's fine too.

In a nutshell, the devs are the only ones truly donating, while the bidders are buying. The premise being that the charity gets all of the money that the bidder's bid (that actually gets paid in the end), and the bidders are motivated to "give" to the charity because they are actually getting something tangible for their money, with added probability of getting an excellent deal. The benefit for the devs comes from the product buzz that should be created through participating in the charity. In addition, the devs should be able to get tax benefits from being able to claim the full retail value of their product(s) as charitable donation.

My two cents. Ed.

[PALU]

And you can always donate money directly via Luftrum's PayPal.

IMHO the two ways of doing this are ok - you can pay more than full price of the product (it happened) and you can try to score a bargain. Either way you are helping the cause.

[Diggyy84]

Reason 9 and all Propellerhead-made Rack Extensions $175

[PALU]

Bjulin Waves InpireMe - $5

[Kadakwhite]

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I'm assuming we should ignore the fact that people are paying close to retail for NFR licenses to pay some "charity" where the CEO makes $344,887 (https://www.savethechildren.net/statement-ceo-pay (https://www.savethechildren.net/statement-ceo-pay)) and they have over 20 employees at the top making over $100,000 a year. You could do more good getting involved in your local community. I personally am not going to help pay for someone's yacht. Good luck guys.

[thecontrolcentre]

[BBFG#]

I'm assuming we should ignore the fact that people are paying close to retail for NFR licenses to pay some "charity" where the CEO makes $344,887 (https://www.savethechildren.net/statement-ceo-pay) and they have over 20 employees at the top making over $100,000 a year. You could do more good getting involved in your local community. I personally am not going to help pay for someone's yacht. Good luck guys.

^ That's less than .0173% of their budget, which is very little for
"... a global organisation operating in around 120 countries, with tens of thousands of staff working in some of the toughest places in the world, delivering programmes to millions of children with over a two billion USD annual budget, and responding to more than 65 emergencies in nearly 50 countries in 2015."

Please, let's remember the spirit behind this, and ultimately donate according to that. My only qualms have been with dealers/developers using this drive to manipulate their own market. Of course they deserve the good will advertising they get from their donations. I only question when all they donate are the same promotional freebies they give away regularly or equally bid on everything they carry in stock at a higher price than they advertise the same product.

[torhan]

audiority.com Omnisphere TOTAL Bundle #1 -- $25

[Dragonsongz]

Cableguys Volume Shaper $11 (assuming the last bid on this item replaced me. If not, then disregard this comment).

[EnGee]

I'm assuming we should ignore the fact that people are paying close to retail for NFR licenses to pay some "charity" where the CEO makes $344,887 (https://www.savethechildren.net/statement-ceo-pay) and they have over 20 employees at the top making over $100,000 a year. You could do more good getting involved in your local community. I personally am not going to help pay for someone's yacht. Good luck guys.

Interesting!
Personally, I'll have good read about it now. IMO employees of the charities should be paid by governments (or volunteers). It's not a business!

Anyway, let's be sure as this money are the hard earning of the developers and us the bidders.

[starflakeprj]

Seriously people, include the number on which you make a bid if there are several of the same! Is that too hard?

Let me show you how you should do it:

Premier Collection #2: $40
Corona license #5: $5

@Luftrum, consider the bids above legit.

[BBFG#]

Interesting! Personally, I'll have good read about it now. IMO employees of the charities should be paid by governments (or volunteers). It's not a business!

We deal with many a NPO and they have a whole host of laws dictating how they operate. Generally, the first factor for me to look at is the ratio of operating cost to benefits. And this particular one is still one that the ratio benefits the cause far more than the administration.
So... Please read the requirements for non-profit business too.
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=c ... 20business

[BBFG#]

Seriously people, include the number on which you make a bid if there are several of the same! Is that too hard?
Let me show you how you should do it:
Premier Collection #2: $40
Corona license #5: $5
@Luftrum, consider the bids above legit.

In the case of multiple licenses of the same product being offered, it does not matter, the 'lowest bid' is always knocked out first.

[EdSevered]

I'm assuming we should ignore the fact that people are paying close to retail for NFR licenses to pay some "charity" where the CEO makes $344,887 (https://www.savethechildren.net/statement-ceo-pay) and they have over 20 employees at the top making over $100,000 a year. You could do more good getting involved in your local community. I personally am not going to help pay for someone's yacht. Good luck guys.

^ That's less than .0173% of their budget, which is very little for
"... a global organisation operating in around 120 countries, with tens of thousands of staff working in some of the toughest places in the world, delivering programmes to millions of children with over a two billion USD annual budget, and responding to more than 65 emergencies in nearly 50 countries in 2015."

Please, let's remember the spirit behind this, and ultimately donate according to that. My only qualms have been with dealers/developers using this drive to manipulate their own market. Of course they deserve the good will advertising they get from their donations. I only question when all they donate are the same promotional freebies they give away regularly or equally bid on everything they carry in stock at a higher price than they advertise the same product.

I agree, let's remember the spirit behind this. I hope that my comments were not taken as criticism.

Because, like everyone else, I am trying to help the cause, while still hoping, a little selfishly, that I can score a deal or two in the process. That's just human nature and one of the reasons that this approach to charitable fund raising works very well.

With this, I probably just ensured that I will be outbid on everything. Oh well.