KVR Audio

Klinke1 · Post by **Klinke1** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:32 pm

Hi,

i have some VSTs from "Plug-in Alliance" ...+ some problems with them.
1. CPU spikes
2. No presets available in Bitwig/Maschine2

(The only ones that work 100% are the Unfiltered Audio VSTs. Double thumbs up)
All other cause CPU-spikes in the DAW. + Maschine/Bitwig no presets available.

Cubase........(CPU spikes)
Bitwig.........(CPU spikes + No presets available beside Unfilt.Audio VSTs)
Maschine 2...(CPU spikes + No presets available beside Unfilt.Audio VSTs)

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Plugin-Alliance is aware of CPU and noise problems in Cubase.(Website/Support/Known Problems)
But... please send them all info about your system, if you also got problems. (Any DAW/OS)
+ please give some feedback here in the thread.
Thanks

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Here: 1 audio loop + 1 VST (e.g. Distorange) bring the DAW to drop-out...
While a whole bunch of VSTs from other companys will not cause any drop-out.
(Start Plugin-Alliance VST / 0:45 Unfiltered-Audio VSTs / ~1.00 Other VSTs added)
96kHz/24Bit (<-edit)
W10
RME Babyface

Googly Smythe · Post by **Googly Smythe** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 3:53 pm

Contact PA and ask for an earlier version. Their site support states that if you contact them they will send you links to a previous version(s).
Or, if you are using vst3, try using the vst2 versions.

Klinke1 · Post by **Klinke1** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:20 pm

Ayorinde wrote:Contact PA and ask for an earlier version. Their site support states that if you contact them they will send you links to a previous version(s).
Or, if you are using vst3, try using the vst2 versions.

-There are no old/earlier versions for newer plug-ins. ("legacy installers")
I have the/some legacy installers.

-Bitwig only can do VST2

-Still no presets available in Maschine/Bitwig..

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Other suggestions from them is to not use any USB-drives:
Cubase needs the USB-licencer + removing others didn't help. ..In my case.
The plug-ins are unusable since 2-3 months.

PLEASE POST IF YOU ALSO HAVE PROBLEMS. Thx.

Klinke1 · Post by **Klinke1** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:50 am

I you have problems with Plugin-Alliance-VST please post about it.
And help get over it.
I got invited by P-Alliance to (beta-)test all their VST...because i fixed another nasty problem.

This here is a chance to collect data and i will send it to them.
..Also... i ran out of bubble-gum.

THX

lfo2k · Post by **lfo2k** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:12 pm

I did buy plenty of Plugin-Alliance stuff. Mostly all of them generate heavy CPU spikes after a while:

bx_boom!
bx_XL V2
VSC-2

and so on.

I did demo the new bx_rooms and liked it much, but the CPU spikes are so heavy that i did not buy this gem.

It took me a while to realize that the Plugin-Alliance is to blame for those spikes. Now imagine you have already a project running, much plug-ins and then insert 3 of those Alliance vst. This hammers right on your CPU and crushes it.

I did talk to the support. He told me that for some users it would help to pull out a connected USB-Stick from the PC. And yes, this indeed does the job. But imagine what that means for all those VST that need those sticks ; )

I am using Studio One 32bit on Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit.

PS: The legacy versions only do a little less spikes than the newer ones.

soulone82 · Post by **soulone82** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:52 pm

lfo2k wrote:I did talk to the support. He told me that for some users it would help to pull out a connected USB-Stick from the PC. And yes, this indeed does the job. But imagine what that means for all those VST that need those sticks ; )

PA themselves offer USB stick authorization.

lfo2k · Post by **lfo2k** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:22 pm

soulone82 wrote:
lfo2k wrote:I did talk to the support. He told me that for some users it would help to pull out a connected USB-Stick from the PC. And yes, this indeed does the job. But imagine what that means for all those VST that need those sticks ; )
PA themselves offer USB stick authorization.

BWAHA : D

"Please take out the authorization stick sir. What? The plugins is not working any more? There you go, no CPU spikes left" : D

Nice.....

soulone82 · Post by **soulone82** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:35 pm

spacekid · Post by **spacekid** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:16 pm

lfo2k wrote:
soulone82 wrote:
lfo2k wrote:I did talk to the support. He told me that for some users it would help to pull out a connected USB-Stick from the PC. And yes, this indeed does the job. But imagine what that means for all those VST that need those sticks ; )
PA themselves offer USB stick authorization.
BWAHA : D

"Please take out the authorization stick sir. What? The plugins is not working any more? There you go, no CPU spikes left" : D

Nice.....

Some times I have random IRQ problems that are solved by moving usb to the back of my case inputs..anything that is separate on the board should do..if this helps.

Lazylefteye · Post by **Lazylefteye** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:21 am

Most of their plugins still don't work at all with Sierra OSX.
So I have sold them and found alternatives. I won't be going back

Boone777 · Post by **Boone777** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 3:01 am

That's very sad I have a great collection of Plugin Alliance plugins and I started to have problems recently. I had to turn off all my Brainworx Limiters off to finish my mix. Is it the reason a lot of people are selling their Plugin Alliance stuff ?

incubus · Post by **incubus** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 6:34 am

a) People sell their stuff because they bought them out of "gas"

b) I'm on win10 and I haven't had any spikes in tracktion or FL studio. I have a babyface pro and run at 44.1k. Not a super low buffer, but 128. I have several. I'm also demoing several.

The only software that continuously spikes that I've owned (and don't anymore) is S-1

Ichad.c · Post by **Ichad.c** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:38 am

No spikes here either, I have 254E, VSC-2, VSM-3, bx-boom, and bx-limiter. Windows 8.1.

Klinke1 · Post by **Klinke1** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 1:04 am

I found "some" solution.

1. To post above: In the cubase forum i have found several who have alot problems...

2. My solution to Audio drop-outs/CPUpikes:

A. Subhost in DAW. Bidule.. or Maschine.. or try an other subhost.
By loading Plugin-alliance VST2/3s inside Bidule i just manged to reduce spikes by ~50%
In Maschine load was a bit higher but the spikes didn't produce drop-outs anymore.

B. I transfered all licences to an USB-stick and installed with the new "Plugin-all. installer".

I have/had spikes in Cubase/Bidule the highest with drop-outs
-> better in Maschine (no dropouts)
-> much better in Bidule (50 % reduced peak load on CPU)

This makes my vsts usable again.. and the newer ones sound quite good.
But nothing is alright... still bad performance under normal cicumstances.

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edit: And in Bidule is also access to presets..

vadimv · Post by **vadimv** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:18 pm

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Vadim here from Plugin Alliance. On October 23rd, 2017 we released an update that addresses general instability issues with our plugins in Cubase, AAE6 errors in Pro Tools and a number of other bugs.

To see a full list of which plugins were updated and exactly what was fixed, please consult the Update History at the bottom of ourSupport (https://plugin-alliance.sjv.io/c/4241666/2521506/30401?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.plugin-alliance.com%2Fen%2Fsupport.html) page. If you have experienced any of the aforementioned issues, update your plugins to the latest versions either by downloading the installers from your Manage Registered Plugins (https://plugin-alliance.sjv.io/c/4241666/2521506/30401?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.plugin-alliance.com%2Fen%2Fmanage-plugins.html) page or by using our Installation Manager V1.1 (https://plugin-alliance.sjv.io/c/4241666/2521506/30401?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.plugin-alliance.com%2Fen%2Fnews%2Farticle%2Fitems%2Finstallation-manager-v1-1.html).

If you are still experiencing any issues after updating, please Contact our Support Team (https://plugin-alliance.sjv.io/c/4241666/2521506/30401?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.plugin-alliance.com%2Fen%2Ftech_support.html) and we will troubleshoot with you and work towards a solution.

Thank you and have a wonderful day!

Plugin-Alliance CPU spikes / No presets