Free CA-2A from Cakewalk

[robotmonkey]

Lol It's a download from the official site of the company... how would a audio plugin harm your computer? If then, Teksonik's Bitdefender settings are too strict. But then, why bother? In the meantime, i just enjoy the plugin... this is the third time or so though that i read about him complaining about a security risk which is none. Something about his security is shitz.

So was the plugin I mentioned earlier that sneakily scanned people's system who installed the freeware. If you don't understand an installer can inject malware without you knowing it then I'm afraid you are simply naive. Something about your security sucks but hey if you can't be good you better be lucky. I've already explained why I am overly cautious about my studio computer if you are having problems comprehending that it's not my fault.

I doubt Cakewalk would ever become as paranoid and stoop so low as Tone2.

[robotmonkey]

And you do think a plugin downloaded from Cakewalk's site could harm your computer?

And do you know for sure it can't ? Do you blindly trust everyone ? Dangerous in today's world. Look I've already explained my position why don't you just accept it and shut the f**k up ? What's ridiculous is your obsession about my position on security.

I guess there's a difference between being cautious security wise but retaining some common sense and being flat out cuckoo crazy paranoid.

[J4R1O]

I doubt Cakewalk would ever become as paranoid and stoop so low as Tone2.

Tone2, ok. I didn't know that. And that reminds me: biFilter2 is included in Sonar Platinum...

[Numanoid]

But of course, better safe that sorry.

Can't you stop trying to bait Teksonik ?

If he doesn't want the plug, what is the big deal ?

It is just another freebie, no need to call somebody paranoid for not wanting it

[mrcleats]

Oh KVR, summed up beautifully - a free, quality plugin leading to a topic full of bile.

[chk071]

Oh KVR, summed up beautifully - a free, quality plugin leading to a topic full of bile.

[ghettosynth]

Oh KVR, summed up beautifully - a free, quality plugin leading to a topic full of bile.

Meh, maybe. You know though, not all free things are created equal. This is pretty decent, but not as awesome as other free things. The best free things work great, look great, and you can just download them and drop them into your plugins folder. Then there is a gradient as conditions are placed on that. You want an email address, ok, that's reasonable. Oh, now I have to authorize, ok, still ok, but not as awesome as other things. Maybe it's made up for by working or looking better than other stuff. Then we get things like this that want you to install slightly more intrusive software. Again, ok, but I'd like it more if that wasn't the case. Close to the bottom we have things that are crippled, then, below that, things that are crippled and nag you to buy something everything they load.

I think that it's ok to talk about things like that here.

[chk071]

I think the point some people don't get is that this has been payware, and a company is not likely to do a big coding, and testing job, just to make the plugin free of any copy protection/software center activation, so that KVR doesn't have anything to moan about. And, in this case, it has been completely user error, because the antivirus suite tagging this as malware was configured so that it gives out a faulty warning.

Anyway, bla bla bla. People will use this, and be glad they got it, a few will complain, simply because they can, fair enough. I just wonder about the ungratefulness sometimes, and about the spoiled brat attitude. Jeez, if i can't be arsed to install something due to its copy protection, or bundled software, i just won't install. Wouldn't even think about going online, and acting like a diva because UUUH MY ANTIVIRUS BUGGED ME OVER THE INSTALLER!! Good thing i ain't a spoiled brat after all.

[Teksonik]

And, in this case, it has been completely user error, because the antivirus suite tagging this as malware was configured so that it gives out a faulty warning.

Are you still running your mouth douch bag ? Your obsession is both hilarious and creepy at the same time.

Let me try pounding this through your thick skull one more time. The warning is not faulty. The software did it's job. Maybe if you took the time to learn the difference between a virus and ransomeware you might get some understanding but I doubt you're capable of absorbing such information.

Now f**king drop it. If I don't want to install this on my studio computer that's my choice. Mind your own f**king business. Am I making myself clear ?

[ghettosynth]

I think the point some people don't get is that this has been payware, and a company is not likely to do a big coding, and testing job, just to make the plugin free of any copy protection/software center activation, so that KVR doesn't have anything to moan about. And, in this case, it has been completely user error, because the antivirus suite tagging this as malware was configured so that it gives out a faulty warning.

Anyway, bla bla bla. People will use this, and be glad they got it, a few will complain, simply because they can, fair enough. I just wonder about the ungratefulness sometimes, and about the spoiled brat attitude. Jeez, if i can't be arsed to install something due to its copy protection, or bundled software, i just won't install. Wouldn't even think about going online, and acting like a diva because UUUH MY ANTIVIRUS BUGGED ME OVER THE INSTALLER!! Good thing i ain't a spoiled brat after all.

I think that you're neglecting that free plugins, especially from large commercial vendors, are generally not really altruistic. They are a part of a marketing campaign. This one wants an account to be setup, a name, an email address and to ask you several other questions. I'm not saying that's wrong or not ok, but it's not an act of altruism, it's specifically designed to be a campaign to gain customers or information in hopes that ultimately it will boost cakewalk's bottom line.

A lot of people give away or discount full products. You can get focusrite red this month with CM magazine. Eventide gave away their channel strip that still sells for $249 (last I checked anyway). These are focused campaigns that are designed to be competitive in the vendor's eyes. They all want your information which has a concrete value to them. The cost of acquiring customers is a non-negligible cost of doing business. A campaign like this gets a lot of new faces coming in the door along with permission to contact them.

Even really good freebies are designed to get a vendor in your sights, they are like advertisement. We don't generally read magazines any more, so , this is how vendors get their name in our faces.

The less a vendor wants, the more that you can view a freebie as discounted approaching zero. So, personally, I don't think of most of these freebies as gifts, they aren't, they are discounted and there is an exchange in some sense. Despite the fact that you think that you're getting the better part of the deal, I imagine that the vendors think that they are as well. So, there's no reason to be gushingly grateful for these things. Appreciative, perhaps, but make no mistake that a sale has taken place even if you don't crack open your wallet.

Basically, I gave cakewalk the information that they asked for. I've held up my end of the deal and it's completely fair to compare that to other vendors who offer a better deal.

Seriously dude, look at my post again and try to see how this works. I'm talking in public to hundreds, maybe thousands of people and you are seeing specific names in the thread. Eventide, Focuswrite, Cakewalk. Coke pays millions of dollars for this effect in the superbowl, granted, that's on a larger scale. Yes, I'm happy with the Red suite, and the digital download cost me $5, but what a bargain that was because of the five or six other CM plugins that I didn't have that I wanted. For all intents and purposes, I paid zero for the Red Suite, I would have paid $1 for every other free plugin that I installed today. Focusrite just gave me a much more expensive set of plugins than cakewalk did and didn't require me to install any intrusive software. Those plugins were no more free than Cakewalk's, but like Cakewalk's, they're probably at the point of diminishing returns which is the right time to offer them in a giveaway because people will act based on perceived value.

This year I've purchased an Eventide plugin with real cash. Before the giveaway, I didn't even know that they made plugins. Now I have three of their plugins and I pay attention to their emails. I'm pretty sure that Eventide is grateful that I took advantage of their offer to exchange my contact information for a slightly buggy and outdated 32 bit plugin so that they could get customer info and, in the large, bug reports to ramp up their plugin development. Now Focusrite is on my radar, and they did a partnership last month with Eventide, they know what they're doing. They're getting my attention and they're happy about it.

Oh, and one last thing, of course they call them gifts or tell you that they're free, that's just psychology. It's no different than the outdated tactic of pricing a $2 item at $1.99. Even though they have crunched the numbers and this campaign is going to be great for them, that only works if everyone downloading the freebie think that they're getting something for nothing or almost nothing. It would just sound a lot less exciting if they told you the truth.

That's how it works, they're not gifts, they're advertisement.

YMMV

[Teksonik]

It's quite obviously a false positive. It really does not matter what module triggered it - it's still a virus warning. It's generated most likely because the mentioned program is a code injector (a technique malware also uses) and has nothing to do with trying to access your files.

No...it's...not...a false positive. It is a warning from the ransomware module that the .exe was trying to access my protected folders. That's the whole point of ransomware protection. Unless you want to get all your projects, samples, and presets locked until you pay the ransom.

Is it likely that Cakewalk has added malware in it's installer ? No but I don't need another 2A emulation bad enough to mess with it......

Am I getting through to you guys ? I don't care if you install this any more than you should care that I don't. Just don't go spreading misinformation in the process.

[donquixote]

thanks cakewalk, decided to install with offline activation on mac all went well, mmm i just couldn´t make it work under wineskin (yeah i know its not supported) the offline activation menu export/import doesn´t appear and if install command center it doesn´t start up !

[nicksohn]

It sounds good on vocals.

Yes! You got this!
La-2a magic in there!
Smooth compression on vocal track!

[MogwaiBoy]

I imagine Cakewalk staff reading this thread, wondering why they bothered

[ghettosynth]

I imagine Cakewalk staff reading this thread, wondering why they bothered

I beg to differ. They are going to read it and say, "oh look, we weren't on ghettosynth's radar because of some previous bad experiences, but, the quality of our offer got him to reconsider and re-engage. Get the marketing team's bonus ready, this is exactly what we wanted."