KVR Audio

parawave · Post by **parawave** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:20 pm

recursive one wrote:Compared to the Virus vid I've posted above it is still not as smooth and thick (ofc, it may be because 20 minutes is not enough to tweak the sound to perfection )

Yes, that's it. Even with a Virus you need a bit tweaking to exactly get "that" sound. Two minutes of fiddling, it's mostly how you balance treble/bass and set the unison detune + cent detuning. Matter of taste. Here a quick patch.

Touch The Universe · Post by **Touch The Universe** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:43 pm

parawave wrote: @Touch The Universe:
Nice to see some first impression videos. Also I have to say, using 3 layers with 9 unison saws is a bit overkill CPU wise. You could easily get the same sound by using a multi-sample from "Lead Detuned" e.g 283:Detuned Saw 40%.
As the sample already includes unison, a setting of 2x or 3x is more than enough for "fat" sound. Look at the Preset Leads Big/Wide Event. It also demonstrates the layer send feature. If you don't want to put a reverb on every layer, and miss a master reverb. You turn of "Send To Master" in layer 1. Send it to layer 2 and it will also run through the layer 2 effect stack.
Looking forward to more videos when you are getting used to it. Especially when using multiple sends and filter-fx. There enough stuff to discover ;D

Almost missed this

Yes, you are indeed right, i just maxed out my cpu on this laptop with 5 full detune 8x supersaws, but man is that a phat sound! I haven't had enough time to explore anywhere close to all what's inside rapid rate, mostly kept myself to the basic wavetables and a few aribitrarily chosen multi-samples. I did just try a few of those detuned multi-samplels and they sound absolutely gorgeous! Silky Smooth and uses so much less cpu, but I even tried max detune and 8x unison anyways

what a sound!

Looking forward to trying out those other methods you just mentioned tomorrow after a good nights rest, been pulling all nighters since i got rapid

edit* @recursive, just playing more with those detuned multi-samples and that completely nails that smooth virus sound you linked. Not sure if the demo has them, if so check them out!!

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:46 pm

Touch The Universe wrote:
https://soundcloud.com/touch_the_univer ... super-saws

Yeah, this sounds closer

Touch The Universe wrote:Awesome track! Love what you did with the formants.

Thanks !

Touch The Universe wrote: You should definitely grab Rapid.

Will surely do, hope I'll have some free money before November 1st

Touch The Universe wrote: edit* @recursive, just playing more with those detuned multi-samples and that completely nails that smooth virus sound you linked. Not sure if the demo has them, if so check them out!!

Will check them, as for now I've disregarded the sampled content. But sampled detuned wave means much less flexibility to tweak the patch. Hope these detuned samples at least don't have stereo spread.

@Parawave. Thanks a ton, will check out your patch

george · Post by **george** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:15 pm

Wait until we implement detunable unison in Discovery Pro

parawave · Post by **parawave** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:46 pm

George wrote:Wait until we implement detunable unison in Discovery Pro

Dude, you had how many years?

george · Post by **george** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:19 pm

parawave wrote:
George wrote:Wait until we implement detunable unison in Discovery Pro
Dude, you had how many years?

our project code leader is busy

Synthman2000 · Post by **Synthman2000** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:03 pm

Does RAPID have portamento/glide ? If so I cannot seem to locate it. Thanks

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:05 pm

Look into the voicing tab (the one marked as "V" above the envelopes/lfos)

Synthman2000 · Post by **Synthman2000** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:06 pm

Cool thanks

fluffy_little_something · Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:17 pm

George wrote:
parawave wrote:
George wrote:Wait until we implement detunable unison in Discovery Pro
Dude, you had how many years?
our project code leader is busy

It must suck when you depend on someone else

I wonder how long your business will continue to survive when new and, from what I read and hear here, clearly superior stuff like Rapid pops out of nowhere...

george · Post by **george** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:21 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:
George wrote:
parawave wrote:
George wrote:Wait until we implement detunable unison in Discovery Pro
Dude, you had how many years?
our project code leader is busy
It must suck when you depend on someone else I wonder how long your business will continue to survive when new and, from what I read and hear here, clearly superior stuff like Rapid pops out of nowhere...

Probably until tomorrow

Lejurai · Post by **Lejurai** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:43 pm

I really really like Discovery and Corona so even though I have some of those superior synths, I'll be loyal customer of DiscoDSP

Both are great for psytrance.

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:09 pm

Lejurai wrote: Both are great for psytrance.

and Rapid is even more so

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:05 pm

A small hypersaw test: 4 bars Rapid, the hypersaw patch posted by Parawave with disabled reverb and delay, filter replaced for analog, filter envelope tweaked a bit. Then 4 bars Virus, I tried to approximate the Rapid patch using 2 hypersaw oscillators and 2x unison with stereo spread. I didn't try to match them for 100% since Virus was not designed to be a Rapid emulation, but they sound more or less similar

https://soundcloud.com/recursion-loop/r ... ersaw-test

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:09 pm

Rapid has more fizz somehow.

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