Will we ever see vsts of Korg Z1 or Yamaha VL?

[himalaya]

. I'm hoping that others will try this softsynth and explore it's possibilities and share them on the forum.

If you mean, try Tassman4, then it has been used and loved by many for the past 10 years or so. It's a long favourite of mine in particular. However, you might not be seeing any active interest in Tassman as it hasn't been updated with long requested features and improvements. Good luck with your new Tassman patch!

[Dasheesh]

SO here's a question, Is SPIRE the same kind of deal as a Z1?

[fmr]

SO here's a question, Is SPIRE the same kind of deal as a Z1?

Not at all.

[Cinebient]

I have the feeling Korg would make an iOS version before. Their iOS apps are better than the VST's.

[fmr]

I have the feeling Korg would make an iOS version before. Their iOS apps are better than the VST's.

An iOS app... That would be funny.

[Dasheesh]

SO here's a question, Is SPIRE the same kind of deal as a Z1?

Not at all.

Well, you have four oscillators that you choose oscillations like violin, bass, piano, etc... then use them as building blocks using FM self am/fm etc...

[Cinebient]

I have the feeling Korg would make an iOS version before. Their iOS apps are better than the VST's.

An iOS app... That would be funny.

Why not? They already released a lot iOS apps and some of them are really better than the desktop plug-ins (like Korg iM1 f.e.).

[fmr]

Why not? They already released a lot iOS apps and some of them are really better than the desktop plug-ins (like Korg iM1 f.e.).

So, you did some A/B tests, phase cancellation tests on the very same patch, etc. to know that? Or are you just saying?...

[fmr]

SO here's a question, Is SPIRE the same kind of deal as a Z1?

Not at all.

Well, you have four oscillators that you choose oscillations like violin, bass, piano, etc... then use them as building blocks using FM self am/fm etc...

Because, to have a violin, is not enough to have a violin wave in an oscillator. You will need a "real", or something that behaves like a "real" violin (you know, that thing that has a wood box, with two holes in S shape, a bridge, four strings, and is played with a bow). Because EVERYTHING in that thing matters to the sound, and the same note can sound different in many ways, depending on what kind of bow strike you use, how much pressure is made on the strings, where does the bow play the strings, which string is played, etc.

[Cinebient]

Why not? They already released a lot iOS apps and some of them are really better than the desktop plug-ins (like Korg iM1 f.e.).

So, you did some A/B tests, phase cancellation tests on the very same patch, etc. to know that? Or are you just saying?...

Well, the sound is mostly the same but for less money and the GUI is so much better.
GUI making for plug-ins seems still in medieval compared to that "crippled" iOS.
(But a few developers are up to date...)

[fmr]

Why not? They already released a lot iOS apps and some of them are really better than the desktop plug-ins (like Korg iM1 f.e.).

So, you did some A/B tests, phase cancellation tests on the very same patch, etc. to know that? Or are you just saying?...

Well, the sound is mostly the same but for less money and the GUI is so much better.
GUI making for plug-ins seems still in medieval compared to that "crippled" iOS.
(But a few developers are up to date...)

So they are "really better" because they are cheaper (although KLC is now being selled for peanuts) and because they have a skin YOU think is better. (I agree that the GUIs need some overhaul, though, but that doesn't make the iOS versions better)

[Dasheesh]

SO here's a question, Is SPIRE the same kind of deal as a Z1?

Not at all.

Well, you have four oscillators that you choose oscillations like violin, bass, piano, etc... then use them as building blocks using FM self am/fm etc...

Because, to have a violin, is not enough to have a violin wave in an oscillator. You will need a "real", or something that behaves like a "real" violin (you know, that thing that has a wood box, with two holes in S shape, a bridge, four strings, and is played with a bow). Because EVERYTHING in that thing matters to the sound, and the same note can sound different in many ways, depending on what kind of bow strike you use, how much pressure is made on the strings, where does the bow play the strings, which string is played, etc.

Meh. Just add some velocity to the wave morphing.

[fmr]

SO here's a question, Is SPIRE the same kind of deal as a Z1?

Not at all.

Well, you have four oscillators that you choose oscillations like violin, bass, piano, etc... then use them as building blocks using FM self am/fm etc...

Because, to have a violin, is not enough to have a violin wave in an oscillator. You will need a "real", or something that behaves like a "real" violin (you know, that thing that has a wood box, with two holes in S shape, a bridge, four strings, and is played with a bow). Because EVERYTHING in that thing matters to the sound, and the same note can sound different in many ways, depending on what kind of bow strike you use, how much pressure is made on the strings, where does the bow play the strings, which string is played, etc.

Meh. Just add some velocity to the wave morphing.

By all means, be my guest. If you manage to come up with a convincing emulation of a real violin, I'm here to hear it

[Cinebient]

SO here's a question, Is SPIRE the same kind of deal as a Z1?

Not at all.

Well, you have four oscillators that you choose oscillations like violin, bass, piano, etc... then use them as building blocks using FM self am/fm etc...

Because, to have a violin, is not enough to have a violin wave in an oscillator. You will need a "real", or something that behaves like a "real" violin (you know, that thing that has a wood box, with two holes in S shape, a bridge, four strings, and is played with a bow). Because EVERYTHING in that thing matters to the sound, and the same note can sound different in many ways, depending on what kind of bow strike you use, how much pressure is made on the strings, where does the bow play the strings, which string is played, etc.

Meh. Just add some velocity to the wave morphing.

By all means, be my guest. If you manage to come up with a convincing emulation of a real violin, I'm here to hear it

Finger Fiddle (another iOS thing....sorry )

[fmr]

Finger Fiddle (another iOS thing....sorry )

I was seeing that coming Yes, that is convincing, but needs some serious skils to play it.

It isn't Spire, though, which was what was being discussed. And it seems to be based in some sort of PM too (is it?)