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Kraznet · Post by **Kraznet** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:16 pm

Yes I agree the guy noodling away on the keyboard doesn't say anything really. He's just showing off. I prefer what the real bass player sitting to the right of him is doing.

Peter - IK Multimedia · Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:33 pm

Burillo wrote: @Peter, will this be available for purchase with Gear Credits?

MODO BASS is not available for purchase with Gear Credits.

progtronic · Post by **progtronic** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:38 pm

With 5-string maximum, and what I can see of the piano/keyswitch assignments in the vids and pics.. I'm going to assume that drop B is the maximum drop tune. Not gonna work for me, unfortunately.

Metal and Prog folks are outta luck on this one, I guess.. bummer..

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:08 pm

progtronic wrote:Metal and Prog folks are outta luck on this one, I guess.. bummer..

You mean "Djent" and "Experimental Super Low Frequency Prog Metal (Solo)/Djent".
Becaus Progressive Rock definitely works FINE with 5-string. (heck even 4 string... the 70uies anyone?!)

And I've seen plenty of Djent bass players with 5-string basses as well... in fact, the "personification of Djent"'s (*cough* Meshuggah *cough*) bassplayer, Dick Lövgren, uses 5-strings.

One of the crazy people that "uses" a 6-string in a prog-metal band, is John Myung... and mostly only during solo work, not as "support". The "Djent" tuning comes from the baritone guitars (8 and 9 strings) anyway.

The all-bass "Djent" band, "Extinction Level Event" - uses 5-strings and sounds super low.
Mike Kerr from Royal Blood? 4 String...
Robert Trujillo (Metallica)? 5-string...
Geddy Lee (Rush)? 4 string and headless Steinberger

6-string basses are just as special as 8 and 9 string guitars IMO.

Yes, there are users that want that, there will always be interest for it. But really? This makes a VSTi "bad" (or worse) and "unusable" because the "feature/guitar is not available"?

Give me a break, please!

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:14 pm

Compyfox wrote:And I've seen plenty of Djent bass players with 5-string basses as well... in fact, the "personification of Djent"'s (*cough* Meshuggah *cough*) bassplayer, Dick Lövgren, uses 5-strings.

Yeah, but AFAIK downtuned from low B to low low F#.

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:31 pm

If the range can be extended - that's fine, but I don't count on that (considering the fixed keyswitch positions).

And if not... Octave Pedal, anyone?

progtronic · Post by **progtronic** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:55 pm

Compyfox wrote:
progtronic wrote:Metal and Prog folks are outta luck on this one, I guess.. bummer..
You mean "Djent" and "Experimental Super Low Frequency Prog Metal (Solo)/Djent".
Becaus Progressive Rock definitely works FINE with 5-string. (heck even 4 string... the 70uies anyone?!)

And I've seen plenty of Djent bass players with 5-string basses as well... in fact, the "personification of Djent"'s (*cough* Meshuggah *cough*) bassplayer, Dick Lövgren, uses 5-strings.

One of the crazy people that "uses" a 6-string in a prog-metal band, is John Myung... and mostly only during solo work, not as "support". The "Djent" tuning comes from the baritone guitars (8 and 9 strings) anyway.

The all-bass "Djent" band, "Extinction Level Event" - uses 5-strings and sounds super low.
Mike Kerr from Royal Blood? 4 String...
Robert Trujillo (Metallica)? 5-string...
Geddy Lee (Rush)? 4 string and headless Steinberger

6-string basses are just as special as 8 and 9 string guitars IMO.

Yes, there are users that want that, there will always be interest for it. But really? This makes a VSTi "bad" (or worse) and "unusable" because the "feature/guitar is not available"?

Give me a break, please!

I should have said "Extreme Metal". And, yes.. generally Experimental in nature.

I usually tune to a drop A.. but also need to go lower once in a while.

Never said it was "bad" or "unusable".. it's just a preference. The Kontakt instruments I use, can't naturally (with built in scripting) tune as low as I need either.. but I have the option to use the overall tuning knob to down tune as much as I need. Results still sound great with higher sample rate libraries.

I figured with a fully configurable, physical modeling oriented VST.. I would be able to create crazy instruments (10+ string basses with really long necks and piano-like strings.. and whatnot), to fully realize my musical insanity.. I can dream, I guess.

Here's an example of a low-tuned track, I did a few months ago (maybe you can hear, what I'm basically going for.. using the Scarbee Rickenbacker on this one):
https://soundcloud.com/progtronic/shadow-phantom

progtronic · Post by **progtronic** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:56 pm

EvilDragon wrote:
Compyfox wrote:And I've seen plenty of Djent bass players with 5-string basses as well... in fact, the "personification of Djent"'s (*cough* Meshuggah *cough*) bassplayer, Dick Lövgren, uses 5-strings.
Yeah, but AFAIK downtuned from low B to low low F#.

Yep.. this.

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:12 pm

progtronic wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:
Compyfox wrote:And I've seen plenty of Djent bass players with 5-string basses as well... in fact, the "personification of Djent"'s (*cough* Meshuggah *cough*) bassplayer, Dick Lövgren, uses 5-strings.
Yeah, but AFAIK downtuned from low B to low low F#.
Yep.. this.

Given that adding additional strings or a longer neck would require changes to the UI graphical representation of the bass, I don't think you're going to see that in the initial release. It would be nice if they could at least expand the tuning range though.

progtronic · Post by **progtronic** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:21 pm

deastman wrote:
progtronic wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:
Compyfox wrote:And I've seen plenty of Djent bass players with 5-string basses as well... in fact, the "personification of Djent"'s (*cough* Meshuggah *cough*) bassplayer, Dick Lövgren, uses 5-strings.
Yeah, but AFAIK downtuned from low B to low low F#.
Yep.. this.
Given that adding additional strings or a longer neck would require changes to the UI graphical representation of the bass, I don't think you're going to see that in the initial release. It would be nice if they could at least expand the tuning range though.

Doesn't look like the UI changes for the addition of a fifth string (on the four stings) anyway?.. but, yeah. More tuning options would be great.

Peter - IK Multimedia · Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:56 pm

Thanks for the questions and for the requests of which I will make sure the team is aware.

For those unaware of the video demos we have available, there are quite a few on our YouTube channel, including this one which is part 1 of the Presets & Models:

Burillo · Post by **Burillo** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:45 am

i don't really go for very low tuning, so a 5 string is fine for me. as it is, MODO looks very tempting. it's a good thing i have until mid november to think about it. hopefully by that time more rock/metal demos come out.

@Peter, i assume the model selection will be extended with Custom Shop? seems like that would be a natural progression for MODO.

Kraznet · Post by **Kraznet** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:59 am

Done my pe-order. What's the ETA for this ?

benjamind · Post by **benjamind** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:47 am

Low B is ample low enough for the overwhelming majority of metal work.

It's just under 31Hz.

Most audio systems, even the more expensive ones, cannot even produce the fundamental properly - unless you spend $10,000 on a pair of K&H 420. I've literally heard dozens of studio subwoofers and I'm yet to hear one that goes lower than Low B and still manages to put out convincing power.

DarkStar · Post by **DarkStar** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:29 am

Kraznet wrote:Done my pe-order. What's the ETA for this ?

November, date not yet specified.

MODO BASS: Get ready for a new level of realism (1.5 update available now)