KVR Audio

Sendy · Post by **Sendy** » Thu Oct 27, 2016 9:41 pm

Looked for a thread for it, couldn't find one.

Was highly skeptical about it, doesn't even do PWM, played with the demo, caved and bought it.

FML

Seriously, though, the way the oscillators beat each other off, sorry, I mean beat off eachother, or rather, beat against eachother... *sigh*... OK, let's just say detuned oscillators sound amazing. I often find that even excellent synths sometimes have a harshness when you play stacked oscillators at a moderately high pitch - it's almost like inter-modulation. Doesn't happen with this synth.

Nothing will replace Diva for sound design - I've learned so many awesome tricks you can do with that synth, but The Legend is so well optimized and it Just Sounds Good. Simple setup, but there's quite a bit you can do with the overdrive and symmetry adjustment of the filter model.

Kumi_27 · Post by **Kumi_27** » Thu Oct 27, 2016 9:44 pm

You really missed 60 pages thread? http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=470249

Sendy · Post by **Sendy** » Thu Oct 27, 2016 9:55 pm

Apparently I did, despite looking back three pages from the front of the Instrument board and completely missing it

cytospur · Post by **cytospur** » Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:01 pm

You can do PWM using a saw and a ramp in opposition to one another and slightly detuned. It's an old trick and admittedly you don't have much control over it, but it does sound nice. There's a factory patch that does exactly as I describe.

Sendy · Post by **Sendy** » Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:09 pm

cytospur wrote:You can do PWM using a saw and a ramp in opposition to one another and slightly detuned. It's an old trick and admittedly you don't have much control over it, but it does sound nice. There's a factory patch that does exactly as I describe.

Yeah, it goes "through zero" (total phase cancellation) but it's a good trick to know. I also noticed you can get some mild PWM using oscillator 3 as a pitch modulator and finding the right ratios. The settings in the attatched pic work well.

(so apparently by "the right ratios" I mean detuning the mod oscillator from the sound-making one slightly

. But experimenting with other ratios like fifths and suboctaves produce some interesting results, as does turning off keytrack - a cross between PWM and ring modulation almost).

Turning up the mod oscillator into the mix can also create some interesting effects - even if it's in LO mode, as it adds DC offset and messes with the filter's drive symmetry.

cytospur · Post by **cytospur** » Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:27 pm

Nice idea! I'll have a play with that

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:28 pm

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chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:30 pm

Ehm... yes... any more convincing conspiracy theories though?

Sendy · Post by **Sendy** » Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:47 pm

Numanoid wrote:
Kumi_27 wrote:You really missed 60 pages thread? http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=470249
+1

this is more like an infomercial thread.

seems to me like the op got a copy of the plug in return for promoting it

Well thanks. Thanks a lot

I thought I had a pretty good reputation around here. I do my reviews at a certain website with full disclosure, and have been told my reviews are both objective and technically accurate from a music making standpoint. You are now accusing me of being a liar and a shill for simply enjoying a product that I paid for and (heaven forbid), sharing my experience.

Thanks for reminding me why I stopped coming to KVR.

EDIT: Ok, I'm not going to replace what I said with something else, but I will say, there was no need to tar the entirety of KVR with one brush. I get bummed out on matters of honesty quite quickly and tend to over-react, especially when it comes from left-field, for seemingly no reason. But obviously sometimes someone WILL think there's a reason, even if it's clear to most there is not.

Treating enthusiasm with a knee-jerk "shill!" reaction just seems hella jaded to me, just because I missed the flipping main post for the product.

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:54 pm

I missed the original threads (here and Gearslutz) on this too and only discovered this two days ago. Neither thread title used the words Minimoog, so I just kind of ignored them. The Gearslutz thread was in a dance sub forum, and not in new products, so easy to miss I guess. It wasn't until I saw mention of The Legend being better than Monark in another thread that I found them.

Kumi_27 · Post by **Kumi_27** » Fri Oct 28, 2016 9:23 am

Maybe some people already forgot the simple joy of having a new toy to play, a good one at that.
Well, too bad for them.

Gosh · Post by **Gosh** » Fri Oct 28, 2016 9:33 am

Sendy wrote:
Numanoid wrote:
Kumi_27 wrote:You really missed 60 pages thread? http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=470249
+1

this is more like an infomercial thread.

seems to me like the op got a copy of the plug in return for promoting it
Well thanks. Thanks a lot

I thought I had a pretty good reputation around here. I do my reviews at a certain website with full disclosure, and have been told my reviews are both objective and technically accurate from a music making standpoint. You are now accusing me of being a liar and a shill for simply enjoying a product that I paid for and (heaven forbid), sharing my experience.

Thanks for reminding me why I stopped coming to KVR.

EDIT: Ok, I'm not going to replace what I said with something else, but I will say, there was no need to tar the entirety of KVR with one brush. I get bummed out on matters of honesty quite quickly and tend to over-react, especially when it comes from left-field, for seemingly no reason. But obviously sometimes someone WILL think there's a reason, even if it's clear to most there is not.

Treating enthusiasm with a knee-jerk "shill!" reaction just seems hella jaded to me, just because I missed the flipping main post for the product.

hi sendy, i love your reviews, they are informative and unbiased. i would even go so far to say that, more than one time, they helped me to make a buying decision. please keep up the good work

dark water · Post by **dark water** » Fri Oct 28, 2016 9:39 am

+1

Numanoid's comment ''seems to me like the op got a copy of the plug in return for promoting it'' is out of order.
''seems'' isn't good enough to justify making such a slur.
And even more so given that many of us know about Sendy's honest reviews.

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:27 am

As usual, numanoid bases all his posts on 'facts'

Such a drip

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:37 am

AnX wrote:As usual, numanoid bases all his posts on 'facts'

Such a drip

I didn't realize my comment should create such heated feelings.

If I was to take every negative comment aimed at me like this personally, and there have been many over the years, most of them unjust, then life on a forum would be hard.

"I take a licking but keep on ticking"