Repro-1 (out now)

[Urs]

If that is the case then Zebra 2 needs the sonics upgraded. I have never used it in a track yet. I don't like the top end in it. It sounds somehow intangible to my ear.

Set Osc Renderer to "Crisp" and lock the parameter.

[Urs]

BTW: Do you still have plans for something related with Synthex or was that postponed to an uncertain future?

Not quite an uncertain future. It's on our todo list for a Diva makeover, possibly a 2.0 upgrade. We'll also drop support for some older processors for a hopefully considerable speed bump and refurbished filters. But I'm not sure I can do this on the side while concentrating on Z3. Might happen after.

[Urs]

Except forget damn filters already

Can't forget them - it's my favourite line of work.

[fmr]

BTW: Do you still have plans for something related with Synthex or was that postponed to an uncertain future?

Not quite an uncertain future. It's on our todo list for a Diva makeover, possibly a 2.0 upgrade. We'll also drop support for some older processors for a hopefully considerable speed bump and refurbished filters. But I'm not sure I can do this on the side while concentrating on Z3. Might happen after.

Fair enough. Zebra 3 has to be given priority, since it's been announced for so long, but it's good to hear about your future plans for DIVA anyway.

[Synthman2000]

If that is the case then Zebra 2 needs the sonics upgraded. I have never used it in a track yet. I don't like the top end in it. It sounds somehow intangible to my ear.

Set Osc Renderer to "Crisp" and lock the parameter.

I will try that ! Thanks.

It is not that I am not open to experimentation for the future but my current system has its own horsepower issues. Predominantly memory, occasionally CPU and I am just getting workflow sorted for this, so doubling up my SR's at the moment will need a bit of experimentation with a complete project to see if it handle the extra cycles.

FWIW and not to derail and go OT I have a similar issue with DUNE. The top has always sounded a bit opposite of crystal clear... like a bit subdued and un-extended, kind of dipping out when you expect it instead to bite and scream. It could possibly be that I subjectively like a touch of aliasing. Though I think this is a general thing even when extreme filtering is not employed.

[recursive one]

I'm obviously in the minority at KVR but I do think that Zebra is a lacking in terms of sound quality, deginitely not on par with Diva or Bazille, which concerns the top end, the unison, the envelopes, the overall feeling of "fatness" and "presence" and other things which are hard to describe adequately. I'm still keeping my Z2 license though and curious to see what Z3 will bring.

[Cinebient]

Emulations are a step backward.

Yep, I also thought so. But then, I have a collection of vintage analogue beauties and no time to play them. They collect dust. It's a shame. I want to sell them off to more caring homes. But before I do, I want to model them. Or rather, get my students, interns or freshmen to do that for me. It's a good exercise.

Myself, I'm going to do mostly innovative work and maybe a filter or two.

Include them all in the Berlin Modular
But yes, i also want to see more "new" stuff. In 50 years someone should say "I emulated the famous U-he filter(s)".
I have the feeling in a few years all the big brands get their famous analog synths on iPads which sounds awesome even today, costs just a few bucks, have better performence options (mostly), are forcing faster forwards and a billion people could have access to it.
So better start to create some very unique stuff....but first release the Repro-1

[fmr]

I have the feeling in a few years all the big brands get their famous analog synths on iPads which sounds awesome even today, costs just a few bucks, have better performence options (mostly), are forcing faster forwards and a billion people could have access to it.

I have a feeling that in a few years there will be no iPads

[wagtunes]

So what exactly is the scoop here? Is there going to be an official Repro synth release?

[Cinebient]

I have the feeling in a few years all the big brands get their famous analog synths on iPads which sounds awesome even today, costs just a few bucks, have better performence options (mostly), are forcing faster forwards and a billion people could have access to it.

I have a feeling that in a few years there will be no iPads

I bet before that happens the desktop is dead before
It's an old dinosaur with bloated software and expensive tools
There must be a reason why Moog and Korg (others might follow....Roland?) make now exclusive iOS apps
Yeah, of course it's dramatized but to overlook these powerful tiny tools might be dangerous.
I mean there is nearly no difference any more in sound quality but a lot desktop tools stuck in the past in terms of multi-touch, editing, midi stuff etc.
I bet in 2-3 years the iPad rules the synth world (not sampling or hybrids). You already get hardware with iOS editing apps. Seaboard's connecting great with it....etc.
But maybe you are right. But Apple's Mac is dead for me (they doesn't focus anymore on a niche) and windows.....mmhhhh....we will see.

[Urs]

So what exactly is the scoop here? Is there going to be an official Repro synth release?

Yep, as officially announced here, some 9+ months ago:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 5#p6360657 (the first few posts in that thread got mangled up...)

OTOH This thread here is now quite surplus. The first post reveals the conclusion. I think I'm going to lock it soon...

[.jon]

Except forget damn filters already

Can't forget them - it's my favourite line of work.

Probably the most interesting technical part to design, no doubt. But when you think of it in the context of a synthesizer, a musical instrument, it's just a filter. All the other parts make the synth what it is.

[wagtunes]

So what exactly is the scoop here? Is there going to be an official Repro synth release?

Yep, as officially announced here, some 9+ months ago:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 5#p6360657 (the first few posts in that thread got mangled up...)

OTOH This thread here is now quite surplus. The first post reveals the conclusion. I think I'm going to lock it soon...

Thanks. I never saw that thread. Nice to know.

[Vectorman]

I'm obviously in the minority at KVR but I do think that Zebra is a lacking in terms of sound quality, deginitely not on par with Diva or Bazille, which concerns the top end, the unison, the envelopes, the overall feeling of "fatness" and "presence" and other things which are hard to describe adequately. I'm still keeping my Z2 license though and curious to see what Z3 will bring.

You know, I've had moments where I've found myself thinking that, but I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that Zebra is sort of the opposite of a "sweet spots" synth. It takes more patience and futzing around to dial things in than with some synths that are simpler and maybe aren't as apt to let you get to ugly places between the sweet areas. I was just going back to Howard's "two point five" and "tenth anniversary" folders last night and there's some absolutely gorgeous sound design in those collections. I really like a lot of Howard's Virus patches too (at least 1/3 of the favorites I've collected in my Virus RAM banks are HS patches), but I really get a sense that Zebra allows him to stretch out more and hone in on things with a greater degree of precision and finesse. I do expect that all the work that's been done for other u-he products in the last several years with filters and envelopes and saturation and so forth is going to show in Z3, though, and that the core sound is only going to get better.

[Urs]

Except forget damn filters already

Can't forget them - it's my favourite line of work.

Probably the most interesting technical part to design, no doubt. But when you think of it in the context of a synthesizer, a musical instrument, it's just a filter. All the other parts make the synth what it is.

Yep, all the parts have to be great and suit each other.