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ENV1 wrote: (And with respect to host-scanning; i really cant imagine that any host developer could be so careless as to program their plugin-scanner in such a way that it would actually scan everything thats present in the plugin folder. On the contrary, i have very little doubt that they are smart enough to make use of the OSs filetype-filter, so that the scanner only scans for .dll and/or .vst3 files and other types of files arent being involved in the first place. (You know, in the interest of time.)).
I have several hosts that scan also the IZ files in the iZotope plug-ins, and put them aside with an error, so, I would not be so sure. But maybe that because those those are also DLL files.

Anyway, the main argument is when you use several species of the plug-in (like VST2, VST3, AAX, and also 32-bit and 64-bit versions). The method you prefer would force to have a version of the suport files in EACH plug-in folder. Not very practival, IMO. OTOH, a central common location for the support files is much more neat, makes much more sense, and is what is being done by the majority of developers. Of course, this could be user definable, and that way the user could choose where to put it (even inside the VST folder if that's what he/she wanted).
Fernando (FMR)

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Not to be argumentative, just to respond:

fmr wrote:...the main argument is when you use several species of the plug-in (like VST2, VST3, AAX, and also 32-bit and 64-bit versions). The method you prefer would force to have a version of the suport files in EACH plug-in folder. Not very practival, IMO.
It would be a single textfile with a .cfg extension a couple of bytes in size. You simply put a copy next to every version of the plugin and everything works fine.

As to practicality, personally i find it very practical because it gives us the greatest amount of flexibility without the introduction of any disadvantages. (Nothing is being forced in a certain location, the resources folder can be anywhere the user chooses, the plugin remains fully portable, etc.)

fmr wrote:OTOH, a central common location for the support files is much more neat, makes much more sense, and is what is being done by the majority of developers. Of course, this could be user definable, and that way the user could choose where to put it (even inside the VST folder if that's what he/she wanted).
The problem is that by 'central common location' you mean a fixed location on the C: drive. Thus if parts of the plugin are being forced there, (with no other way), you will inevitably lose both portability and the possibility to keep those files off your OS partition. So in case your OS has to be deleted and re-setup (or you fresh-install a newer version) you will wipe those files out along with the OS unless you manually copied them to another volume so you can later copy them back. But if on the other hand the files were stored on a drive other than C: to begin with, you could replace the OS as often as you wanted and the synth would never be affected by it. (Thats one of the main points, the other main point is the portability aspect.)

But agreed, as long as there is at least some way for the user to decide where the files get stored there will be no problem. How it is ultimately done is inconsequential, all that matters is that the option exists.

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Hey... are you making music with OB-Xd? :D

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We all wipe and reinstall our OS daily, no time for music when you gotta organize file folders.

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.jon wrote:We all wipe and reinstall our OS daily, no time for music when you gotta organize file folders.
:lol:

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Cant make music with a plugin that doesnt do everything for me automatically.

Having to select automation targets manually totally ruins the experience.

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ENV1 wrote:Cant make music with a plugin that doesnt do everything for me automatically.

Having to select automation targets manually totally ruins the experience.
Hmm we will try to make that better. Do you have more details about that automation target thing?

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ENV1 wrote:Cant make music with a plugin that doesnt do everything for me automatically.

Having to select automation targets manually totally ruins the experience.
Oh look at dumb old you, you didn't just confuse a bug with your silly obsession about file locations, did you?

You know, you can't select automation envelope target manually in Live 9.6 because of this bug, it needs to be linked via the device panel first. It's a pretty annoying extra step to link every parameter you want to automate, for normally working plugins it's enough to just touch the parameter to display it's envelope.

It's not the plugin btw, it's the host offering this very handy workflow.

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George wrote:Hmm we will try to make that better. Do you have more details about that automation target thing?
It was just a tit-for-tat response to .jons stupid 'daily OS reinstall' remark. Hes joking now, but the jocularity will quickly fade away the next time he finds himself forced to restore or replace his OS. I think we all know that.


As for things in general: I really dont care how people behave in the privacy of their own homes and the 'real world' in general, but what i do wish, very strongly, is that people would at least make an attempt to try to keep their self-centeredness to a minimum whilst participating in public forum conversations. Because the thing is, just because Person A thinks that what they want is very important doesnt mean that Person B can be insulted or offended only because Person B has something thats important to them too. The reality is, and always has been, that different people have different priorities and thats not gonna change anytime soon. I would therefore respectfully submit that perhaps the best way to deal with this is to approach it with a certain amount of civility and for everyone to at least respect everyone elses point in the same way that you would have them respect yours.

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Hi. I'm just trying the 32bit version of OBXD. It crashes my DAW (EnergyXT1) when I attempt to load a .fxb (preset bank) file.
Otherwise, .fxp presets load just fine!

Any ideas what might go wrong?
WinXP 32bit, OXBD 1.3.2

LE: Reaper works; but an older version of VSTHost (which I used a lot for debugging my own stuff) always gets crashed when loading the plugin.

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jackoo wrote:Hi. I'm just trying the 32bit version of OBXD. It crashes my DAW (EnergyXT1) when I attempt to load a .fxb (preset bank) file.
Otherwise, .fxp presets load just fine!

Any ideas what might go wrong?
WinXP 32bit, OXBD 1.3.2

LE: Reaper works; but an older version of VSTHost (which I used a lot for debugging my own stuff) always gets crashed when loading the plugin.
Sounds like a host issue. This should be solved once we implement the built in bank loader ;)

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ENV1 wrote:As for things in general: I really dont care how people behave in the privacy of their own homes and the 'real world' in general, but what i do wish, very strongly, is that people would at least make an attempt to try to keep their self-centeredness to a minimum whilst participating in public forum conversations. Because the thing is, just because Person A thinks that what they want is very important doesnt mean that Person B can be insulted or offended only because Person B has something thats important to them too. The reality is, and always has been, that different people have different priorities and thats not gonna change anytime soon. I would therefore respectfully submit that perhaps the best way to deal with this is to approach it with a certain amount of civility and for everyone to at least respect everyone elses point in the same way that you would have them respect yours.
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George wrote:
jackoo wrote:Hi. I'm just trying the 32bit version of OBXD. It crashes my DAW (EnergyXT1) when I attempt to load a .fxb (preset bank) file.
Otherwise, .fxp presets load just fine!

Any ideas what might go wrong?
WinXP 32bit, OXBD 1.3.2

LE: Reaper works; but an older version of VSTHost (which I used a lot for debugging my own stuff) always gets crashed when loading the plugin.
Sounds like a host issue. This should be solved once we implement the built in bank loader ;)
Hi George. The Obxd synth is being used for this month OSC, one synth challenge. It's working great and many people are now in full swing to design their sounds and make OSC tracks. I know you are a generous guy and you just made a fine contribution to the yearly auction, to help those poor Children. It would be nice if you would consider to offer something as a prize for the Winner of this month OSC93 :D ..bjporter is the guy that manage OSC. A big thanks for this nice and free version of Obxd :tu:
Win 10 -64bit, CPU i7-7700K, 32Gb, Focusrite 2i2, FL-studio 20, Studio One 4, Reason 10

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ATN69 wrote:
George wrote:
jackoo wrote:Hi. I'm just trying the 32bit version of OBXD. It crashes my DAW (EnergyXT1) when I attempt to load a .fxb (preset bank) file.
Otherwise, .fxp presets load just fine!

Any ideas what might go wrong?
WinXP 32bit, OXBD 1.3.2

LE: Reaper works; but an older version of VSTHost (which I used a lot for debugging my own stuff) always gets crashed when loading the plugin.
Sounds like a host issue. This should be solved once we implement the built in bank loader ;)
Hi George. The Obxd synth is being used for this month OSC, one synth challenge. It's working great and many people are now in full swing to design their sounds and make OSC tracks. I know you are a generous guy and you just made a fine contribution to the yearly auction, to help those poor Children. It would be nice if you would consider to offer something as a prize for the Winner of this month OSC93 :D ..bjporter is the guy that manage OSC. A big thanks for this nice and free version of Obxd :tu:
Yes, the OSC winner can get a Discovery Pro NFR license, cheers :)

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Thanks George! Very generous :D ..I am sure the winner will be very happy.
Win 10 -64bit, CPU i7-7700K, 32Gb, Focusrite 2i2, FL-studio 20, Studio One 4, Reason 10

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