Repro-1 (out now)

[glokraw]

Jurrasic Pro One newbie just noticed the separate
+ - pitchbend settings, so three Repro-1 instances can
bend 6 different amounts. Perhaps with well crafted tones,
this instrument could be a great
pseudo pedal steel guitar synth.

[deastman]

Jurrasic Pro One newbie just noticed the separate
+ - pitchbend settings, so three Repro-1 instances can
bend 6 different amounts. Perhaps with well crafted tones,
this instrument could be a great
pseudo pedal steel guitar synth.

I had been hoping to run four instances at once for a polyphonic version controlled by the Seaboard. Unfortunately, I can barely manage a single instance at the moment...

[glokraw]

For reference, I have an older i7 2600, running around
3.4 ghz, and 5 Repro-s are using 51% cpu
in linux, Mixbus as the host. I think I have the cpu
settings the way I want, safely under the rated max of 3.8 ghz,
If I had spare cash, I might research overclocking,
but sadly, the cpu is not the weak link here

[jbuonacc]

anyone able to answer these questions about the sequencer? is nobody using it or what?

having some trouble understanding how the Sequencer operates, and the manual shows a design that is different from the beta.

- does it always need to be triggered via MIDI note, like how you could do with the SH-101 sequencer? great that it can do that, but for some reason i'm expecting it to also just sync/reset to the host transport.

- any way to currently reset it from the beginning each time, like it says in the manual? obviously the little screen with the reset option isn't there, but maybe i'm missing some other way to get it to do that?

- seems like it never starts playing on the first step of the sequence, but jumps to the second step.

[Lixma]

At we going to see a Repro-1-FX?

Considering how great the Lyrebird sounds I would love to see a standalone vintage delay VST from u-he.

[aaron aardvark]

Ingo,
Since I also own Arturia Prophet-V (and a real Pro-One), I'll be curious to try your patches, thank you.

[Urs]

anyone able to answer these questions about the sequencer? is nobody using it or what?

Hehe, had I been in charge with the sequencer I could have probably answered all questions. But they're even beyond my knowledge as to what's a known issue, what's fixed and what will be fixed in which way.

On top of that our support guys - who would be conveying your question to the dev team - have been working extra shifts to keep up with feedback.

What I can say is, instead of the rather complicated set of options depicted in the manual we decided to simplify. There's now a mode where the sequencer only plays while a key is pressed, which should be the default way. Another mode simply always runs and syncs/resyncs to the host song position.

As we can't distinguish between hosts that have a transport and such that don't, we can't just start and stop with host playback. Which is why we recommend:

- keyed play in production
- always on for sound design and live stuff

The sequencer has been the biggest issue with making a faithful emulation: There original had no concept of song position, all it could do was run in the same tempo as, say, the drum machine. We had to replace the external clock input with an internal clock that syncs to host, and we had to have the sequencer glue to host song position.

We are however open to suggestions. If some other synth with similar built-in sequencer does a better job, let us know and we'll evaluate the options.

[hivkorn]

anyone able to answer these questions about the sequencer? is nobody using it or what?

Hehe, had I been in charge with the sequencer I could have probably answered all questions. But they're even beyond my knowledge as to what's a known issue, what's fixed and what will be fixed in which way.

On top of that our support guys - who would be conveying your question to the dev team - have been working extra shifts to keep up with feedback.

What I can say is, instead of the rather complicated set of options depicted in the manual we decided to simplify. There's now a mode where the sequencer only plays while a key is pressed, which should be the default way. Another mode simply always runs and syncs/resyncs to the host song position.

As we can't distinguish between hosts that have a transport and such that don't, we can't just start and stop with host playback. Which is why we recommend:

- keyed play in production
- always on for sound design and live stuff

The sequencer has been the biggest issue with making a faithful emulation: There original had no concept of song position, all it could do was run in the same tempo as, say, the drum machine. We had to replace the external clock input with an internal clock that syncs to host, and we had to have the sequencer glue to host song position.

We are however open to suggestions. If some other synth with similar built-in sequencer does a better job, let us know and we'll evaluate the options.

Hey URS , can we expect you to change the sequencer in HIVE ? (i hate this huge windows from -24 to 24..)
I prefer the repro 1 , it is more confortable

[jbuonacc]

- keyed play in production
- always on for sound design and live stuff

i'll try playing around with it some more, but i couldn't tell if these modes were even working or not or if there was any difference between them. it seemed whatever i tried just didn't work how i would have expected it to. gave up on the manual when i saw how different it was to the beta and that some things explained in it didn't seem to work either way. i'll spend some more time with it as soon as i can and give a more detailed report of my findings.

We are however open to suggestions. If some other synth with similar built-in sequencer does a better job, let us know and we'll evaluate the options.

check out the TAL Bassline-101 sequencer, definitely.

thanks!

[Gadget Fiend]

Since a picture is usually worth a thousand words, here's a hacked together mockup showing how a second LFO, Mod Envelope, and expanded Modulation section could easily be added to the Repro-1 interface:



And if this is too much of a departure from the original Pro One layout, then perhaps u-he will consider making a polyphonic "Repro-8" synth that includes these additional features.

FYI, the empty "LFO Mod" section would include a few hard-wired "direct" LFO modulation destinations and amount controls. I'm thinking the following would be most useful:

LFO 1 > Osc A Freq
LFO 2 > Osc B Freq
LFO 1 > Osc A PW
LFO 2 > Osc B PW

This layout would maintain the spirit of the Pro One while doing away with the existing Modulation ("Poly Mod" section). In case anyone one is wondering, this is basically what Clavia did with the Nord 1 and 2. Clavia essentially copied the Pro One and then added a few modern conveniences (while still keeping the synth incredibly easy to use and really fun to program and play).

EDIT: I simply copied the "Shape" controls shown in the Mod Envelope section from a different module on the Repro-1 interface. But these Mod Envelope shape controls would determine whether the Mod Envelope is an Attack | Release or Attack | Sustain | Release envelope. Also, there is probably room to include a "Repeat" switch to determine whether the Mod Envelope repeats (so it can be used as a 3rd LFO).

[Urs]

Great, and by omitting the audio rate modulations we could even save CPU!

[Elektronisch]

looks indeed nice but this is also indeed quite a departure from original pro one

But Urs something said in main topic at U-He subforum that sparked my interest:

Hehe, I answered that in the other thread, but why not?

As it happens, we do have a Prophet-5 now. If we would like to do a poly version, it would be a P-5 emulation. A few features less, less CPU per voice, slightly different sound but mostly the same sonic character. Lush stuff.

However, our schedule is busy. We have loads of construction areas. We do not know yet if and when we go there.

But tempting it is. And the intro offer won't come back for it

[EvilDragon]

Great, and by omitting the audio rate modulations we could even save CPU!

And with that it's not a Pro-One anymore! Which is TOTALLY the point of RePro-1 being as close an emulation as possible. Gadget Fiend, way to miss the mark and the whole point of why Urs&co even started doing RePro-1.

[Elektronisch]

Great, and by omitting the audio rate modulations we could even save CPU!

And with that it's not a Pro-One anymore! Which is TOTALLY the point of RePro-1 being as close an emulation as possible. Gadget Fiend, way to miss the mark and the whole point of why Urs&co even started doing RePro-1.

I actually look this way: you still have Pro One if you dont use the added features Like The Legend for example

[EvilDragon]

Yes, but that is not what Urs' intention with RePro-1 is, so it won't happen. It's as simple as that.