FL Studio 12.4 Released

[sjm]

Well, it still would be ace if you could just drag/drop them around so still a good FR.

+1, it's how you'd expect it to work. And it's not like dragging and dropping is assigned to some other really useful function instead.

[sjm]

It's not possible to loop channels anymore? Like if I have one bar long kickloop and 4 bars long bassloop. Sequencer plays the longer one but kick can't be looped and I'm forced to make 4 bars long kick loop?

Explain what you are trying to do in more detail. What do you mean by "loop channels"? You can either loop a pattern or you can play the song in the playlist (where you can loop anything as many times as you want by adding it to the playlist that many times).

[incubus]

... one thing that I did back then was use the demo songs as a starting point. I can have "Blake, Hanging on" playing and it's only 17% cpu but skips like crazy.

I remember getting my super duper laptop and it crapping out with some FL Studio demo songs. It turns out the issue was plugin bridging. Running them in the 32 bit version of FLS solved the problem. I haven't thought about it much since then, but do remember thinking that all 64 bit demo projects should be standard these days if this is a potential issue.

"Hey incubus you moron, just open them in the 32 bit version "

That seems to have got it.

[highkoo]

Can I use PEQ2 vectorial in FL11 somehow?

I think Im the only one that cares, but fyi, it works.

And wow, fantastic.

[Lejurai]

It's not possible to loop channels anymore? Like if I have one bar long kickloop and 4 bars long bassloop. Sequencer plays the longer one but kick can't be looped and I'm forced to make 4 bars long kick loop?

Explain what you are trying to do in more detail. What do you mean by "loop channels"? You can either loop a pattern or you can play the song in the playlist (where you can loop anything as many times as you want by adding it to the playlist that many times).

You know.. As I explained.

I have kick, hh, snare and bass in stepseq.

Kick kick kick kick <- 1bar
hh hh hh hh hh hh HHhh hh <- 2bar
snare snare <- 1bar
bbb bbB bbb Bbb BBb BbB bbB BBB bbb bbB bbb Bbb BBb BbB bbB BBB <-4bar

Now when I hit play, kick plays for one bar, hh for 2 bars, snare for one bar and bass for 4 bars.
Earlier it was possible to make shorter loops to.. loop. Instead of going silent.
Kick is silent now for 3 bars before it plays that boom boom boom boom again.

Clear enough explanation?

[incubus]

working with patterns and playlist is very confusing to me. Each seems to have a mind of their own.

Is there a command to simply add a pattern to the playlist that is the next blank? Another one I haven't figured out is is there a way to select a clip/pattern and have it loop that part only?

[Hink]

it isn't confusing per se to me but it is an additional step that doesn't fit well with my workflow. There's nothing wrong with it and I'm sure a bunch of people will tell me why I am wrong though I honestly believe it is a main feature of FL that will and should remain...it just not a good fit for me

[EnGee]

What I got from few days playing with FLS is that I choose my workflow. It is very flexible and if you think related to Ableton Live, it'll click.

Patterns for me can be like clips or whole scenes. The playlist, well, it is the play arranger. It's of course not the same like Live, but I believe it can be as fast as Live for arranging your ideas.

Personally I like to open FLS when I feel groovy it has a pleasant environment and inviting atmosphere for dance. It is addictive as well. Well done Image Line. You have nailed it

[chaosWyrM]

It's not possible to loop channels anymore? Like if I have one bar long kickloop and 4 bars long bassloop. Sequencer plays the longer one but kick can't be looped and I'm forced to make 4 bars long kick loop?

Explain what you are trying to do in more detail. What do you mean by "loop channels"? You can either loop a pattern or you can play the song in the playlist (where you can loop anything as many times as you want by adding it to the playlist that many times).

You know.. As I explained.

I have kick, hh, snare and bass in stepseq.

Kick kick kick kick <- 1bar
hh hh hh hh hh hh HHhh hh <- 2bar
snare snare <- 1bar
bbb bbB bbb Bbb BBb BbB bbB BBB bbb bbB bbb Bbb BBb BbB bbB BBB <-4bar

Now when I hit play, kick plays for one bar, hh for 2 bars, snare for one bar and bass for 4 bars.
Earlier it was possible to make shorter loops to.. loop. Instead of going silent.
Kick is silent now for 3 bars before it plays that boom boom boom boom again.

Clear enough explanation?

in your example...you have made the pattern wrong (if you want it to play as you describe).

Kick kick kick kick
hh hh hh hh hh hh HHhh hh
snare snare
bbb bbB bbb Bbb BBb BbB bbB BBB bbb bbB bbb Bbb BBb BbB bbB BBB

is ONE pattern...not 4. it stops playing the kick after 1 bar because you have told it to stop playing the kick after 1 bar, this behavior makes perfect sense....if you want it to continue for 4 bars...then extend it to 4 bars.

what you really want to do is make each of those a separate pattern and then put them in the playlist.

[inkwarp]

what you really want to do is make each of those a separate pattern and then put them in the playlist.

some people find FL difficult because it is so 'open', in other words there are several methods to skin the proverbial cat.
the quoted method is fine. usually i will paint a blank pattern into the playlist where i have the chance of extending the length of the selected pattern or paint/repeat it as many as is necessary. this bypasses the channel rack to just concentrate to working with playlist clips. so what you are asking is totally possible, the old step sequencer is gone now. i for one prefer the newest method as you get much more flexibility. hth

[camsr]

You can rename any pattern so they aren't a bunch of numbers.

I miss the old FL playlist where the patterns had a set position up/down by number. Now you can put any pattern on any part of the grid, which is kinda confusing.

[chaosWyrM]

what you really want to do is make each of those a separate pattern and then put them in the playlist.

some people find FL difficult because it is so 'open', in other words there are several methods to skin the proverbial cat.
the quoted method is fine. usually i will paint a blank pattern into the playlist where i have the chance of extending the length of the selected pattern or paint/repeat it as many as is necessary. this bypasses the channel rack to just concentrate to working with playlist clips. so what you are asking is totally possible, the old step sequencer is gone now. i for one prefer the newest method as you get much more flexibility. hth

yes...thats what i was saying. the original example doesnt work the way he expects because the channel rack doesnt behave as it used to. hes expecting it to be like pattern blocks and i guess he wants it to work that way again...but i dont see why one would. fl studio has moved away from the pattern blocks...which is the only way his method would work.

i understand that people lament the old style pattern blocks...but i dont understand why, they are obsolete, inefficient, and superfluous. the playlist does everything pattern blocks used to and more and better.

[VariKusBrainZ]

It's gone.
There used to be a little button top right of the step sequencer.

[chaosWyrM]

working with patterns and playlist is very confusing to me. Each seems to have a mind of their own.

Is there a command to simply add a pattern to the playlist that is the next blank? Another one I haven't figured out is is there a way to select a clip/pattern and have it loop that part only?

im not sure what you find confusing about the patterns/playlist.

you make a pattern...and then put it in the playlist where you want it to play. they are 2 separate things. you arent meant to "play" anything from channel rack. that is there to construct the patterns. you can play just that pattern from the channel rack, but thats so you can work on it. when you want to use it...you put it in the playlist.

i dont understand what it is you are asking to do. why would you add a blank pattern to the playlist? it would serve no purpose...its blank.

also if you want to loop a pattern, just click the song/pattern mode switch. if by "loop" you mean to have it play over and over during a track (and not just so you can work on it)...just paint it into the playlist as many times as you want it to loop. you can paint 100 bars in 2 seconds.

the patterns are independent and can go anywhere...the playlist is linear. you place the patterns where you want them in the playlist. if you have a 1 bar pattern and you want it to loop for 16 bars....you paint it in 16 times.

does that help at all?

[inkwarp]

If you want the blocks back so badly ( the went out of the window on v.11?). all you can do is go to the image line forum and request the feature is re-installed, you will not be alone, there seems to be a sizeable number of peeps asking for that. but truth is these aspects have been deprecated because working the current way is the way that gives you a lot of of options, more than a simple step sequencer. i don't understand the intransigence of people just refusing to invest a little time to learn the up-to-date FL. It is simply much, much better. there are also more videos on youtube that can teach you all the bells and whistles. Otherwise the above advice should get you started.
oh, and one last thing you do know how to use the 'help'.. hit F1, it is your friend : )