Heavyocity released PUNISH

[dblock]

The price on Audiodeluxe is significantly cheaper !!!!!!!

That's who I bought it from. Came out to $168.99. Wasn't willing to pay $200 at this time but decided it was worth the discounted price. Thanks to whomever it was who gave the heads up on the Audiodeluxe price.

[cprompt]

I sense just a slight bit of cynicism in your question but ok, I'll bite and answer this way...
Your question is almost akin to "could I have gotten that placement if I was one synth short?" Cmon. Ask the supervisor who places the track. I'm not in his head and I'm not naive as to what plugins can and can't do. It's another tool.
A single plugin like this won't directly make me more money anymore than a single string on a guitar will get me a gig but you put your tools together,use them as you see fit toward an overall better product. You make good calls and good purchases, you make stinker calls and suck purchases. That's the game.
I bought this particular plugin because it suites me personally and helps improves my sound enough to my liking. It also helps improve my workflow because I prefer spending as little time as possible tweaking knobs. The less time I spend tweaking the more time I spend writing the more money I can earn so yes, indirectly this plugin will help me make more money like most of my tools that came before it. And the day I become too cynical about that is the day I quit and do something else. That's how I look at it.

Honestly, no cynicism meant, it was a genuine question from somebody who enjoys making music purely for his own satisfaction and enjoyment. I'll never make a penny from my hobby. Every plugin, sample and Impulse Response I buy is money I'll never get back. I have spent far too much money over the years buying stuff (in fairness most of it during sales but still...) purely because I enjoy using new tools as well as old friends to play with and make my "music" with. It's fun, I love it, but that's as far as it goes. I'm knocking on the door of 50 and the time to get in to the business commercially was 30 years ago!

So it was a genuine question - I can imagine buying a plugin like this if I thought I would enjoy using it and could justify spending $200 on that "pleasure" (I can't!). You, on the other hand, have a commercial interest in your investments - will a $200 plugin pay you back directly or indirectly? And I think you answered that very frankly and openly, in that of course the plugin itself won't pay for itself (like anyone who has bought the ELI Arouser for $350 won't suddenly become more in demand or sell more music). But your workflow will improve and allow you to be more productive. I get that, and appreciate your response.

[dblock]

I sense just a slight bit of cynicism in your question but ok, I'll bite and answer this way...
Your question is almost akin to "could I have gotten that placement if I was one synth short?" Cmon. Ask the supervisor who places the track. I'm not in his head and I'm not naive as to what plugins can and can't do. It's another tool.
A single plugin like this won't directly make me more money anymore than a single string on a guitar will get me a gig but you put your tools together,use them as you see fit toward an overall better product. You make good calls and good purchases, you make stinker calls and suck purchases. That's the game.
I bought this particular plugin because it suites me personally and helps improves my sound enough to my liking. It also helps improve my workflow because I prefer spending as little time as possible tweaking knobs. The less time I spend tweaking the more time I spend writing the more money I can earn so yes, indirectly this plugin will help me make more money like most of my tools that came before it. And the day I become too cynical about that is the day I quit and do something else. That's how I look at it.

Honestly, no cynicism meant, it was a genuine question from somebody who enjoys making music purely for his own satisfaction and enjoyment. I'll never make a penny from my hobby. Every plugin, sample and Impulse Response I buy is money I'll never get back. I have spent far too much money over the years buying stuff (in fairness most of it during sales but still...) purely because I enjoy using new tools as well as old friends to play with and make my "music" with. It's fun, I love it, but that's as far as it goes. I'm knocking on the door of 50 and the time to get in to the business commercially was 30 years ago!

So it was a genuine question - I can imagine buying a plugin like this if I thought I would enjoy using it and could justify spending $200 on that "pleasure" (I can't!). You, on the other hand, have a commercial interest in your investments - will a $200 plugin pay you back directly or indirectly? And I think you answered that very frankly and openly, in that of course the plugin itself won't pay for itself (like anyone who has bought the ELI Arouser for $350 won't suddenly become more in demand or sell more music). But your workflow will improve and allow you to be more productive. I get that, and appreciate your response.

I apologize for misunderstanding you cprompt. No harm no foul and I appreciate you clarifying though it wasn't necessary.
I got a BIG kick out of your comment though (in a purely humorous way),"I'm knocking on the door of 50 and the time to get in to the business commercially was 30 years ago!"
I'm 63 knocking on 64 and I actually didn't start actually to make money from writing until I got laid off from the pharmaceutical manufacturing in 2009 when I decided to dig in with the music. My thought was it's never too late. I'd better do it now and let the chips fall where they may before I really am too old to achieve my dream of writing full time. Anyway, not meaning to hijack the "Punish" thread.Just thought your comment was funny and had to reply to that.

[dblock]

I sense just a slight bit of cynicism in your question but ok, I'll bite and answer this way...
Your question is almost akin to "could I have gotten that placement if I was one synth short?" Cmon. Ask the supervisor who places the track. I'm not in his head and I'm not naive as to what plugins can and can't do. It's another tool.
A single plugin like this won't directly make me more money anymore than a single string on a guitar will get me a gig but you put your tools together,use them as you see fit toward an overall better product. You make good calls and good purchases, you make stinker calls and suck purchases. That's the game.
I bought this particular plugin because it suites me personally and helps improves my sound enough to my liking. It also helps improve my workflow because I prefer spending as little time as possible tweaking knobs. The less time I spend tweaking the more time I spend writing the more money I can earn so yes, indirectly this plugin will help me make more money like most of my tools that came before it. And the day I become too cynical about that is the day I quit and do something else. That's how I look at it.

Honestly, no cynicism meant, it was a genuine question from somebody who enjoys making music purely for his own satisfaction and enjoyment. I'll never make a penny from my hobby. Every plugin, sample and Impulse Response I buy is money I'll never get back. I have spent far too much money over the years buying stuff (in fairness most of it during sales but still...) purely because I enjoy using new tools as well as old friends to play with and make my "music" with. It's fun, I love it, but that's as far as it goes. I'm knocking on the door of 50 and the time to get in to the business commercially was 30 years ago!

So it was a genuine question - I can imagine buying a plugin like this if I thought I would enjoy using it and could justify spending $200 on that "pleasure" (I can't!). You, on the other hand, have a commercial interest in your investments - will a $200 plugin pay you back directly or indirectly? And I think you answered that very frankly and openly, in that of course the plugin itself won't pay for itself (like anyone who has bought the ELI Arouser for $350 won't suddenly become more in demand or sell more music). But your workflow will improve and allow you to be more productive. I get that, and appreciate your response.

I apologize for misunderstanding you cprompt. No harm no foul and I appreciate you clarifying though it wasn't necessary.
I got a BIG kick out of your comment though (in a purely humorous way),"I'm knocking on the door of 50 and the time to get in to the business commercially was 30 years ago!"
I'm 63 knocking on 64 and I actually didn't start to make any kind of money from writing until I got laid off from the pharmaceutical manufacturing in 2009 when I decided to dig in with the music. My thought was it's never too late. I'd better do it now and let the chips fall where they may before I really am too old to achieve my dream of writing full time. Anyway, not meaning to hijack the "Punish" thread.Just thought your comment was funny and had to reply to that.I do agree, 30years ago would have been great but I was too busy running around with bands and burning myself out.

[nordickvr]

Tried it.
Sincerily I really liked it.
Workflow makes it easy to get to the point pretty fast.
Also appreciate the sound/character of it, v'got his own.
Like said before, atm Audiodeluxe sell it for $168.99.
Still pricy but could worth it if looking for that type of fx.
It delivers.

[dblock]

It's a mastering plugin with a punish knob. I think it's equivalent might be IKMultimedia's Lurssen Mastering Console except Punish works well on individual tracks as well.
I actually have both on my master buss and they will stay there. They are not redundant. Each has it's own sound and they play together very well imo.

[Robmobius]

Punishes the wallet!!

[dblock]

Punishes the wallet!!

I paid $168 at Audiodeluxe. I wouldn't have paid $200 though.

[Robmobius]

Punishes the wallet!!

I paid $168 at Audiodeluxe. I wouldn't have paid $200 though.

That's definitely a better price...

[db3]

Gave the demo a whirl, but didn't blow me away.
If I need a saturation & compressor combo I'll stick with Supercharger GT.

[Caine123]

i dont like the progression of prices some companies do and say it's so PRO! pro pro pro pro pro with pro price

[whyterabbyt]

i dont like the progression of prices some companies do and say it's so PRO! pro pro pro pro pro with pro price

Thank you for your insightful and well-rationalised contribution.

[Robmobius]

i dont like the progression of prices some companies do and say it's so PRO! pro pro pro pro pro with pro price

I agree... It's just junk marketing speech.

Never trust to anyone that wants to sell you something.

[Gonga]

Anybody tried it on guitar? I've been looking for a distortion vst to use on synth to get a nice grunge / crunch for polyphonic playing, one that I can tweak with these sorts of variables while playing, but so far the ones I've tried just don't sound as good as the cab sims. I love Trash but like other distortion vsts it just doesn't measure up to Amplitube when used for polyphonic solo distortion.

[nordickvr]

Anybody tried it on guitar? I've been looking for a distortion vst to use on synth to get a nice grunge / crunch for polyphonic playing, one that I can tweak with these sorts of variables while playing, but so far the ones I've tried just don't sound as good as the cab sims. I love Trash but like other distortion vsts it just doesn't measure up to Amplitube when used for polyphonic solo distortion.

Curious. Did you give a try to Blue Cat Audio's Destructor?