FL Studio 12.4 Released

[highkoo]

Its not the blocks themselves that people want, anymore. Its just about pattern organization.
The block setup tied the patterns to the playlist lanes, for better or worse, but it also served just as a labelled list of all patterns that could be selected. Now we have no auto-locked lanes, AND no list of patterns, and its too free. For me, the i.e. is that when patterns are not in the playlist to be selected, they are forgotten, and hard to find/access.

Ive gotten over this myself, by just giving in to chaos. How many versions of a pattern might I have created, forgotten, left in the project? Who knows? Who cares! Let the grandkids deal with that sh|t.

[tooneba]

How are users managing regions in other daw?

[keel]

I dont miss blocks. I miss that they allowed me to navigate fast and easy. I clicked "pattern 1" on playlist, it opened me on that pattern. Now there is no same way to navigate..

[sjm]

I dont miss blocks. I miss that they allowed me to navigate fast and easy. I clicked "pattern 1" on playlist, it opened me on that pattern. Now there is no same way to navigate..

Try clicking on the clip in the playlist. Doing that selects the pattern. Double-click to open the pattern in the piano roll focussed on the position you clicked in the pattern.

[sjm]

It's not possible to loop channels anymore? Like if I have one bar long kickloop and 4 bars long bassloop. Sequencer plays the longer one but kick can't be looped and I'm forced to make 4 bars long kick loop?

Explain what you are trying to do in more detail. What do you mean by "loop channels"? You can either loop a pattern or you can play the song in the playlist (where you can loop anything as many times as you want by adding it to the playlist that many times).

You know.. As I explained.

I have kick, hh, snare and bass in stepseq.

Kick kick kick kick <- 1bar
hh hh hh hh hh hh HHhh hh <- 2bar
snare snare <- 1bar
bbb bbB bbb Bbb BBb BbB bbB BBB bbb bbB bbb Bbb BBb BbB bbB BBB <-4bar

Now when I hit play, kick plays for one bar, hh for 2 bars, snare for one bar and bass for 4 bars.
Earlier it was possible to make shorter loops to.. loop. Instead of going silent.
Kick is silent now for 3 bars before it plays that boom boom boom boom again.

Clear enough explanation?

I know this has actually already been answered, but yes, that is a lot clearer. As pointed out what you are trying to do doesn't make sense. You have made a pattern that is 2 bars long - it is going to play for 2 bars.

If you think about it, it makes perfect sense the way it is. Otherwise how would you make a pattern where the kick is absent for one bar while the others play? Why would you repeat a one-shot sample at the start of a 4-bar pattern every bar unless the user specifcally tells you to? It'd be total chaos and really wouldn't make any sense.

What you want are separate patterns for each instrument (which IMO is a better workflow for a multitude of reasons anyway). If one part is half as long as the others, you'll just have to put it in the playlist twice as often.

[Lejurai]

in your example...you have made the pattern wrong (if you want it to play as you describe).

Kick kick kick kick
hh hh hh hh hh hh HHhh hh
snare snare
bbb bbB bbb Bbb BBb BbB bbB BBB bbb bbB bbb Bbb BBb BbB bbB BBB

is ONE pattern...not 4. it stops playing the kick after 1 bar because you have told it to stop playing the kick after 1 bar, this behavior makes perfect sense....if you want it to continue for 4 bars...then extend it to 4 bars.

what you really want to do is make each of those a separate pattern and then put them in the playlist.

Yes, it's one pattern that is 4 bars long. And those shorter bars I want to loop when longer one plays in the same pattern.

It's gone.
There used to be a little button top right of the step sequencer.

Exactly!! Don't remember the name though..

[Hink]

How are users managing regions in other daw?

dont want to hi-jack the thread but this is the beauty of objects in Samplitude

[sjm]

Yes, it's one pattern that is 4 bars long. And those shorter bars I want to loop when longer one plays in the same pattern.

The thing is there are no "shorter bars". A pattern can have any number of instruments playing, but all the parts share the same length - the pattern length. If you want a loop that is half as long, you have to make a shorter pattern. That's just how it works, and is no different from a MIDI clip in other DAWs or sheet music with all the parts notated.

What you have programmed is a drum track where one of the two bars for that drum happens to be 1 bar of rest. If you want to loop that one bar, either copy it to the second bar, or make a separate 1-bar pattern for it and repeat that in the playlist instead.

[Lejurai]

Yes, it's one pattern that is 4 bars long. And those shorter bars I want to loop when longer one plays in the same pattern.

The thing is there are no "shorter bars". A pattern can have any number of instruments playing, but all the parts share the same length - the pattern length. If you want a loop that is half as long, you have to make a shorter pattern. That's just how it works, and is no different from a MIDI clip in other DAWs or sheet music with all the parts notated.

What you have programmed is a drum track where one of the two bars for that drum happens to be 1 bar of rest. If you want to loop that one bar, either copy it to the second bar, or make a separate 1-bar pattern for it and repeat that in the playlist instead.

The question was, where is that button that made possible what I want.

[chaosWyrM]

Yes, it's one pattern that is 4 bars long. And those shorter bars I want to loop when longer one plays in the same pattern.

The thing is there are no "shorter bars". A pattern can have any number of instruments playing, but all the parts share the same length - the pattern length. If you want a loop that is half as long, you have to make a shorter pattern. That's just how it works, and is no different from a MIDI clip in other DAWs or sheet music with all the parts notated.

What you have programmed is a drum track where one of the two bars for that drum happens to be 1 bar of rest. If you want to loop that one bar, either copy it to the second bar, or make a separate 1-bar pattern for it and repeat that in the playlist instead.

The question was, where is that button that made possible what I want.

its been removed because theres no reason to have it.

if you want a 1 bar pattern...then make one
if you want a 4 bar pattern...then make one of those

there is no reason to make a single pattern with a part thats 1 bar and a part thats 4 bars unless you want a rest in it. if you want the 1 bar pattern to play for the entire 4 bars then either make it 4 bars put it in the playlist 4 times.

i dont get what is so hard to grasp about this...what am i missing?

[incubus]

Again, I get confused easily. However when working in the playlist exclusively, then I can do that. The problem for me is that FL. Between need to start a different pattern every time, non-exclusive tracks, not having the looping in the playlist be automatic in my brain (but I'm getting there) and other quirks with windows and such, it's NOT simple.

Then again, my brain is mush anyways. Old dog, new tricks, etc.

[chaosWyrM]

Again, I get confused easily. However when working in the playlist exclusively, then I can do that. The problem for me is that FL. Between need to start a different pattern every time, non-exclusive tracks, not having the looping in the playlist be automatic in my brain (but I'm getting there) and other quirks with windows and such, it's NOT simple.

Then again, my brain is mush anyways. Old dog, new tricks, etc.

ok...well one easy(er?) way to get around the looping thing is to try to see the playlist for what it is...a timeline....time doesnt loop (as far as we can tell)...you cant "loop" something in the playlist because its a linear representation of time. the way to accomplish a loop is to simply paint in the pattern along the timeline for the amount of time you want it to loop. the looping issue i think just boils down to not being accustomed to the representation of the loop. it does loop...but it only loops it when you tell it to. if you dont place the pattern in the playlist...its not going to play it...and really why would it?

it is in fact looping the pattern...its just the representation of the loop is to show the pattern as many times as it loops...because time is linear (again...as far as we can tell).

and you can operate as though the tracks are exclusive, just keep the patterns in their own lanes...i mean i think most people do that anyway. you can even color code them and everything...ive never understood how or why that matters...not saying anything against it...just i dont understand why that would make things difficult, so its hard for me to help with that issue. what is the advantage of locked lanes?

and im not sure what you mean by start a "different pattern every time"...what are you referring to exactly?

[Regnas]

I miss that they allowed me to navigate fast and easy. I clicked "pattern 1" on playlist, it opened me on that pattern. Now there is no same way to navigate..

Exactly, that was the beauty of pattern blocks... And they killed it.. unbelievable...

[incubus]

idwtfse

[chaosWyrM]

I miss that they allowed me to navigate fast and easy. I clicked "pattern 1" on playlist, it opened me on that pattern. Now there is no same way to navigate..

Exactly, that was the beauty of pattern blocks... And they killed it.. unbelievable...

but...it still does that.