KVR Audio

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:48 am

Mirko posted a comparison! this would be interesting with Avenger !

Mirko R. wrote:I remembered that some people said "RAPID sounds digital and not analog enough". i build a preset in RAPID similar to a preset from Diva. I took the same midis and played booth. So now it is your turn. Whhich demo is RAPID and which one is Diva?

https://soundcloud.com/mirkoruta/rapid-vs-diva-vst

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:07 am

Caine123 wrote:Mirko posted a comparison! this would be interesting with Avenger !

Mirko R. wrote:I remembered that some people said "RAPID sounds digital and not analog enough". i build a preset in RAPID similar to a preset from Diva. I took the same midis and played booth. So now it is your turn. Whhich demo is RAPID and which one is Diva?

https://soundcloud.com/mirkoruta/rapid-vs-diva-vst

Maybe you can ask him to do the same with Avenger

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:29 am

just saw WIGGLE vst, wow the Motion Pad is nice! is there something like that in Avenger? this helps a lot with creating automations without having to automate so much manually in the DAW.

EnGee wrote:
Caine123 wrote:Mirko posted a comparison! this would be interesting with Avenger !

Mirko R. wrote:I remembered that some people said "RAPID sounds digital and not analog enough". i build a preset in RAPID similar to a preset from Diva. I took the same midis and played booth. So now it is your turn. Whhich demo is RAPID and which one is Diva?

https://soundcloud.com/mirkoruta/rapid-vs-diva-vst
Maybe you can ask him to do the same with Avenger

did it now

bronxsound · Post by **bronxsound** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:33 am

comparison with onepingonly would do for me

msvs · Post by **msvs** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 1:27 pm

funny, I already shot a video for this... uploading it now

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 1:53 pm

loachm · Post by **loachm** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 1:54 pm

@kev - cheers!

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 1:58 pm

Caine123 wrote:Mirko posted a comparison! this would be interesting with Avenger !

Mirko R. wrote:I remembered that some people said "RAPID sounds digital and not analog enough". i build a preset in RAPID similar to a preset from Diva. I took the same midis and played booth. So now it is your turn. Whhich demo is RAPID and which one is Diva?

https://soundcloud.com/mirkoruta/rapid-vs-diva-vst

Frankly wonder about such comparisons. Every freeware SynthEdit factory module based synth is able to sound close with such a sound. Nothing against Mirko, but, that doesn't prove anything, especially when you compare it with another soft synth, and try to prove the "analog"-ness with that. If you really want to prove that your soft synth sounds analog, then compare it with more extreme sounds to the analog counterpart you modelled it on, not just any random analog modelling synth. I'm sorry, but that comparison simply was pointless.

Back to Avenger though.

Klinke1 · Post by **Klinke1** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 2:18 pm

sircuit wrote:If I remember correctly Manuel once said that an "Avenger FX" will render their Vengeance FX suite(s) obsolete, so they will not release such plugin version. It would be an option to sell the FX as an extra. Something like € 199 the synth, € 299 the full package: synth + FX. But then some buyers may feel betrayed... people tend to react very weird (by looking at this thread and Rapid's).

Avenger Manual:
Tip: a detailed description of every effect type would be too much for this hand book. You can
however look up these descriptions in both of our hand books for „Vengeance Producer Suite FX
Bundle 1 & 2“. This can be downloaded on our site.

Seems they are (very) similar.
(i just wanted to add that info)

Rapid price ->

<- me

msvs · Post by **msvs** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 2:33 pm

chk071 wrote:
Caine123 wrote:Mirko posted a comparison! this would be interesting with Avenger !

Mirko R. wrote:I remembered that some people said "RAPID sounds digital and not analog enough". i build a preset in RAPID similar to a preset from Diva. I took the same midis and played booth. So now it is your turn. Whhich demo is RAPID and which one is Diva?

https://soundcloud.com/mirkoruta/rapid-vs-diva-vst
Frankly wonder about such comparisons. Every freeware SynthEdit factory module based synth is able to sound close with such a sound. Nothing against Mirko, but, that doesn't prove anything, especially when you compare it with another soft synth, and try to prove the "analog"-ness with that. If you really want to prove that your soft synth sounds analog, then compare it with more extreme sounds to the analog counterpart you modelled it on, not just any random analog modelling synth. I'm sorry, but that comparison simply was pointless.

Back to Avenger though.

You are right, I think filters / high resonance sounds and the osc detuning defines it and show the differences best, thats why I picked those 2 sounds in the video... (a nice chirping 303 is hard to emulate, too)

Hope you get an impression with this video:

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 2:54 pm

Very nice.

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 3:34 pm

I thought this

msvs wrote:funny, I already shot a video for this... uploading it now

is referring to this

bronxsound wrote:comparison with onepingonly would do for me

Awesone sounds, especially these 303 sequences. FInally I hear that Avenger can sound really warm and fat

Cinebient · Post by **Cinebient** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:08 pm

Another great video. Now i'm pleased so far....release it now. I want to buy

paterpeter · Post by **paterpeter** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 5:02 pm

msvs wrote:
Hope you get an impression with this video:

Nice video! Sounds close enough for my taste.

I saw that there were already a couple of extra preset libraries in the browser. Will there be additional libraries available on release?

noiseboyuk · Post by **noiseboyuk** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:26 pm

Another happy analogue camper, thanks for posting that video.

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