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sacer · Post by **sacer** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:04 pm

I would also apreciate the sequencer from dune or an arp into legend, you can buy more advanced soundbanks with cool arps and sequences, Diva also added the arp later in 1.3, and a lot of cool new presets are available in soundbanks

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:43 pm

sacer wrote:I would also apreciate the sequencer from dune or an arp into legend, you can buy more advanced soundbanks with cool arps and sequences, Diva also added the arp later in 1.3, and a lot of cool new presets are available in soundbanks

Too far away from the original.

electro · Post by **electro** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:37 pm

sacer wrote:I would also apreciate the sequencer from dune or an arp into legend, you can buy more advanced soundbanks with cool arps and sequences, Diva also added the arp later in 1.3, and a lot of cool new presets are available in soundbanks

non-Minimoog Legend presets are exactly what we do not want.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:45 pm

Don't quite get the argument. Having 4-voice polyphony, unison, and onboard effects is also "far away" from the Minimoog. It is a question how much functionality you can ask for on a 99 € synth, on the other hand. And most DAW's feature an arp, or step sequencing anyway, not to speak of dedicated plugins, which can offer even a lot more functionality in that regard, so...

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:48 pm

A workaround since you can't save the info in a patch but using BlueArp and/or Kirnu in front of The Legend yields some quite satisfying results.

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 7:15 pm

chk071 wrote:Don't quite get the argument. Having 4-voice polyphony, unison, and onboard effects is also "far away" from the Minimoog.

Polyphony is a bonus that software allows us. Its not really an additional feature like an ARP that would require an incredible amount of code/UI work.

I would never buy a soft synth that was mono. Despite what some devs say, there is NO excuse for not having some polyphony.

As for the FX, dont need them, not fussed. They are hidden anyway. If you had an onboard ARP, you want that on the main screen. It then messes with the concept.

One of my hosts has a built in ARP anyway...

2ZrgE · Post by **2ZrgE** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 7:18 pm

electro wrote:
sacer wrote:I would also apreciate the sequencer from dune or an arp into legend, you can buy more advanced soundbanks with cool arps and sequences, Diva also added the arp later in 1.3, and a lot of cool new presets are available in soundbanks
non-Minimoog Legend presets are exactly what we do not want.

But we want them.

So which "we" is more important, yours or ours?

2ZrgE · Post by **2ZrgE** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 7:23 pm

AnX wrote:
chk071 wrote:Don't quite get the argument. Having 4-voice polyphony, unison, and onboard effects is also "far away" from the Minimoog.
Polyphony is a bonus that software allows us. Its not really an additional feature like an ARP that would require an incredible amount of code/UI work.

I would never buy a soft synth that was mono. Despite what some devs say, there is NO excuse for not having some polyphony.

As for the FX, dont need them, not fussed. They are hidden anyway. If you had an onboard ARP, you want that on the main screen. It then messes with the concept.

One of my hosts has a built in ARP anyway...

Don't know about the coding - Synapse also has Dune/Dune2 which features an elaborated Arp/Sequencer. They don't have to build st like that from scratch.

Anyway, still very satisfied with my Diva, it has polyphony, arp, velocity modulation, and in a mix no one cares if the Legend does emulate a Moog some percent better...might be important for the obsessed knob fiddlers, well ok, let them have it...

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 7:44 pm

2ZrgE wrote: in a mix no one cares if the Legend does emulate a Moog some percent better...might be important for the obsessed knob fiddlers, well ok, let them have it...

OK... the old "in a mix" argument.... lets see if any devs bother updating their moog emulations....after all, who can tell the difference...

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 7:46 pm

AnX wrote:
chk071 wrote:Don't quite get the argument. Having 4-voice polyphony, unison, and onboard effects is also "far away" from the Minimoog.
Polyphony is a bonus that software allows us. Its not really an additional feature like an ARP that would require an incredible amount of code/UI work.

I would never buy a soft synth that was mono. Despite what some devs say, there is NO excuse for not having some polyphony.

As for the FX, dont need them, not fussed. They are hidden anyway. If you had an onboard ARP, you want that on the main screen. It then messes with the concept.

One of my hosts has a built in ARP anyway...

Yeah, don't really need an onboard arp either, with so many options available externally. I do get the polyphony argument, although i'm guilty of breaking that "rule" with some great sounding monophonic synth.

Anyway, i guess it is in judgement of the dev which features he feels are feasibly for his synth. A real Minimoog doesn't have ADSR envelopes either, or the ability to switch between hardware models. I don't think the argument of what is most authentic, and closest to the real thing is really applicable here. Rather what the dev thought is a good idea to implement, which is fair enough. If the synth was as limited as the real thing, people would probably ask for more options anyway (they already do).

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 8:40 pm

I don't really know if Legend is authentic or not, but it's one of the best sounding software synthesizers I've ever used. Sequencer? Arpeggiator? Nothing it could have would be better than a third party plug in anyway, so I don't see the point. I'd much rather them add velosity and aftertouch controls.

I'll never turn down polyphony, but if the sound is there, why not? I own several kick ass sounding analog monos. I'm for sure buying RePro-1 this year. Legend too, and I already own Roland's System 100. I'd buy their SH2 plug in as well, if they added last note priority.

electro · Post by **electro** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 9:16 pm

zerocrossing wrote:I don't really know if Legend is authentic or not, but it's one of the best sounding software synthesizers I've ever used.

find the .zip file of the A/B vs the hardware. The link is earlier in this thread.

Yorrrrrr · Post by **Yorrrrrr** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 9:57 pm

zerocrossing wrote: I'd much rather them add velosity and aftertouch controls.

Today, it was confirmed by Richard/Synapse that velocity and aftertouch is coming in an update.

TBH, I really don't miss an ARP or sequencer, as I already have that externally.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:00 pm

Yorrrrrr wrote:
zerocrossing wrote: I'd much rather them add velosity and aftertouch controls.
It has been confirmed by Richard/Synapse that velocity and aftertouch is coming in an update!

OK that makes it much more interesting

v1o · Post by **v1o** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:36 pm

Are Legend And Dune going on sale?

Synapse Audio Minimoog emulation "The Legend" for VST/AU and RE released!