KVR Audio

rpc9943 · Post by **rpc9943** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 4:25 am

well im using SFZ and its really not sounding right. at all. You know how you can test sf2's out by loading them in and stuff... i dont know i wish i had a good answer. can you guys test it out with sfz, particularly the hihat sounds really bad.

RonC

egbert · Post by **egbert** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 7:01 am

Sascha Franck wrote:Hm, I may try to resample things then, egbert. Will see if it makes much of a difference.
So far the kits sound fine over here - at least to my ears.
Actually, I don't think anything is actually "resampled" - it's just that samplers are able to play back any sample rate while hosts aren't.
But I'm gonna give it a try anyways.

Early hardware samplers worked this way - just read the sample clock slower or faster to pitch up or down but all software samplers have to output at the songs sample rate - this means they generate a completely new set of samples using interpolation for even a 1 Cent pitch shift.

The quality/resolution of this interpolation is what you are adjusting with the quality levels in SFZ. If you aren't trying to do it in realtime you can apply incredibly high resolution interpolation - which is what R8Brain does on max quality.

SFZ repitches or adjusts sample rates way better than EXS24 or Kontakt and R8Brain will do it better again.

Regards,
Eg

Mr Lizard · Post by **Mr Lizard** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 12:58 pm

These Kits sound lovely.
Awesome work!
Thanks.

Lady J · Post by **Lady J** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:49 am

Is there any chance of getting the MIDI files for the demos on the site?

That would be brilliant.

Markleford · Post by **Markleford** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 4:26 am

Another thanks from me, Mike. I'm sure I'll be making use of these in the near future.

- m

Durk · Post by **Durk** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 8:33 pm

Thumbs up for this work!

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 11:10 pm

Lady J wrote:Is there any chance of getting the MIDI files for the demos on the site?

That would be brilliant.

I'm sure it would be. But I'm using such heavily customized versions of the kits that it might prove too difficult. Also, the mixdowns are heavily plugin dependent and everybody would need to have the same set of plugins. It's just not possible. Sorry.

For those wondering about the sample resampling bit: yes, all samplers do it automatically, but with EXS/kontakt/halion the quality is less than ideal. The newest properly bandlimited samplers might do it a lot better.

For the rest of us, r8brain is our friend. It's simply superior.

uncadave · Post by **uncadave** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 12:13 am

thanks thanks thanks....looking forwad to playing with these

chagzuki · Post by **chagzuki** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 1:00 am

Yeah, I tried downloading the sf2 version and it was messed up. The mapping was goofed and the velocity layers sounded wrong. Redownloaded and got the same result in both SFZ+ and Jeskola XS1.

rpc9943 · Post by **rpc9943** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 2:23 am

thank you, can we please get a proper update?

Thanks

RonC

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Sun Aug 29, 2004 9:37 pm

chagzuki wrote:Yeah, I tried downloading the sf2 version and it was messed up. The mapping was goofed and the velocity layers sounded wrong. Redownloaded and got the same result in both SFZ+ and Jeskola XS1.

Funny, it worked just fine in logic.

I don't think I can do any better. I'm no SF2 expert.

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:18 am

chagzuki wrote:Yeah, I tried downloading the sf2 version and it was messed up. The mapping was goofed and the velocity layers sounded wrong. Redownloaded and got the same result in both SFZ+ and Jeskola XS1.

Uh, did you read the documentation? This isn't a GM drum map (unless you use my sfz mapping

) and it's recorded and played "as is".

uncadave · Post by **uncadave** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 11:13 am

i've messd with the kits a little in kontact..greatkits, both. thanks alot!

Vonbrucken · Post by **Vonbrucken** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 10:22 pm

thanks dude

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