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Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:01 pm

Is any retailer offering the Upgrade to p2?

exmatproton · Post by **exmatproton** » Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:10 pm

Caine123 wrote:Is any retailer offering the Upgrade to p2?

No, but Predator is removed from Plugin Boutique. I guess it won't take long before retailers have their stuff sorted out and start selling the second version (and update maybe as well).

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:55 pm

The Manual doesn't have an index so is a bit hard to follow so maybe I'm doing something wrong or not understanding the Modulation operation properly but here's the steps:

1. Right Click Osc 1 Volume Knob
2. Select "Set Modulation Matrix to" LFO 2 for the sake of this example
3. LFO 2 does not show up in the Mod Matrix Slot but does show in the "Modulated By" list.

LFO 2 is not Modulating Osc 1 Volume. If I manually add LFO 2 to the Matrix it will work. By comparison Right Clicking the Vol Knob and selecting "Arp Free" for example does add it to the Mod Matrix Slot and shows in the "Modulated By" list under Slot 1. Something I'm missing or ?

Also when you you select Default Patch it does not update the Patch Name to Default. The name remains whatever patch was selected before and would make it easy to overwrite an existing preset. When selecting Default Patch the Patch name should change to Default.

Loving the update so far.......

exmatproton · Post by **exmatproton** » Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:00 pm

Teksonik wrote:The Manual doesn't have an index so is a bit hard to follow so maybe I'm doing something wrong or not understanding the Modulation operation properly but here's the steps:

1. Right Click Osc 1 Volume Knob
2. Select "Set Modulation Matrix to" LFO 2 for the sake of this example
3. LFO 2 does not show up in the Mod Matrix Slot but does show in the "Modulated By" list.

LFO 2 is not Modulating Osc 1 Volume. If I manually add LFO 2 to the Matrix it will work. By comparison Right Clicking the Vol Knob and selecting "Arp Free" for example does add it to the Mod Matrix Slot and shows in the "Modulated By" list under Slot 1. Something I'm missing or ?

Also when you you select Default Patch it does not update the Patch Name to Default. The name remains whatever patch was selected before and would make it easy to overwrite an existing preset. When selecting Default Patch the Patch name should change to Default.

Loving the update so far.......

Yeah, seems like a bug. I have the same result, with every parameter...
I must say, this release i a bit buggy...hanging notes, filter is acting up sometimes, slow processing when turning knobs...

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:09 pm

I managed to select LFO 2 from the entries right below "Set Modulation Matrix to" and it works fine but why have entries in the Modulation Source List that can't be added to the Matrix ? I think maybe I'm just not understanding the flow yet.

exmatproton · Post by **exmatproton** » Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:13 pm

Teksonik wrote:I managed to select LFO 2 from the entries right below "Set Modulation Matrix to" and it works fine but why have entries in the Modulation Source List that can't be added to the Matrix ? I think maybe I'm just not understanding the flow yet.

Hmm..i wasn't able to do that. I wanted to modulate the repeat time of env 1 by LFO 1. When i used the rightclick mouse menu, it didn't work. When i did it via the matrix, it worked like it should...weird

Agitator · Post by **Agitator** » Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:14 pm

Hm, actually no NI NKS support!

I am really waiting for this!

Touch The Universe · Post by **Touch The Universe** » Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:15 pm

Same thing happened in the video with the modulation bug, he even said 'housten we have a problem", guess they went ahead with the release and plan to fix it asap..

once the demo is up, let us know

in huge text

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:18 pm

Strange! It didn't accept my payment through a credit card!

I got email from Share it that says my payment was failed. It is as they said, I have checked the bank account.

The problem when I tried to purchase the upgrade again, it says "invalid coupon"! and it doesn't discount the price! Oh well, I'll leave it till Monday then contact their support (which will be very busy I guess!), So I'm still with Predator 1 this weekend

U-he RePro-1 is $79 for me (taxes are 15%) while with Rob Papen it was included in the upgrade price!

No news about my S1 Producer license from JRR shop or Presonus as well

and nothing is going as planned this Black Friday

I'm thinking of cancelling all the purchases and go buy athletic shoes and some summer clothes!

mholloway · Post by **mholloway** » Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:30 pm

So, here's a problem --

All of my old song sessions (I use Ableton) now load empty instruments wherever predator was used, instead of loading Predator 2 (or instead of loading the old version)...

that's not good.

Going to download the legacy installer, hopefully it can co-exist with the version 2, but if so, why did installing version 2 overwrite the 1.6 install?

Strange stuff.

-M

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:31 pm

exmatproton wrote:
Teksonik wrote:I managed to select LFO 2 from the entries right below "Set Modulation Matrix to" and it works fine but why have entries in the Modulation Source List that can't be added to the Matrix ? I think maybe I'm just not understanding the flow yet.
Hmm..i wasn't able to do that. I wanted to modulate the repeat time of env 1 by LFO 1. When i used the rightclick mouse menu, it didn't work. When i did it via the matrix, it worked like it should...weird

I think I might have it partially figured out but I'm just guessing. The LFOs, ENVs and XY are separated below the "Set Modulation Matrix to" drop down because they are the most common Mod Sources ? That way you can use them without using up a Slot in the Matrix and they still have to show up in the list so you can manually add them if you wish ? But I have been able to get the Envs and XY to show up in the Matrix slots from the Set Mod Matrix To menu so it seems to be somewhat unpredictable. So perhaps as Touch the Universe said that is the Mod Bug Rob ran across in his Video. At any rate I have every faith that Jon and Rob will sort out any issues in a future version.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:32 pm

mholloway wrote:So, here's a problem --

All of my old song sessions (I use Ableton) now load empty instruments wherever predator was used, instead of loading Predator 2 (or instead of loading the old version)...

that's not good.

Going to download the legacy installer, hopefully it can co-exist with the version 2, but if so, why did installing version 2 overwrite the 1.6 install?

Strange stuff.

-M

Predator 2 installed alongside 1.6 here. They are happily coexisting......

exmatproton · Post by **exmatproton** » Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:37 pm

Teksonik wrote:
exmatproton wrote:
Teksonik wrote:I managed to select LFO 2 from the entries right below "Set Modulation Matrix to" and it works fine but why have entries in the Modulation Source List that can't be added to the Matrix ? I think maybe I'm just not understanding the flow yet.
Hmm..i wasn't able to do that. I wanted to modulate the repeat time of env 1 by LFO 1. When i used the rightclick mouse menu, it didn't work. When i did it via the matrix, it worked like it should...weird
I think I might have it partially figured out but I'm just guessing. The LFOs, ENVs and XY are separated below the "Set Modulation Matrix to" drop down because they are the most common Mod Sources ? That way you can use them without using up a Slot in the Matrix and they still have to show up in the list so you can manually add them if you wish ? But I have been able to get the Envs and XY to show up in the Matrix slots from the Set Mod Matrix To menu so it seems to be somewhat unpredictable. So perhaps as Touch the Universe said that is the Mod Bug Rob ran across in his Video. At any rate I have every faith that Jon and Rob will sort out any issues in a future version.

Ah, thnx for the heads-up. I will be fidling around a bit more and wait patiently for a fix/correction/edit (however one wants to call it)

mholloway · Post by **mholloway** » Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:40 pm

Teksonik wrote:

Predator 2 installed alongside 1.6 here. They are happily coexisting......

Did you have to install 1.6 again after installing 2 ? Because when I installed 2, my 1.6 disappeared. Only one Predator version shows up in my plugin folders, and loading old song sessions that contained 1.6 results in loading an empty instrument....

exmatproton · Post by **exmatproton** » Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:44 pm

mholloway wrote:
Teksonik wrote:

Predator 2 installed alongside 1.6 here. They are happily coexisting......

Did you have to install 1.6 again after installing 2 ? Because when I installed 2, my 1.6 disappeared. Only one Predator version shows up in my plugin folders, and loading old song sessions that contained 1.6 results in loading an empty instrument....

I got both without re-installing predator 1.6. all is intact

Rob Papen Predator 2 will coming on 25 November :)