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A question to Squids!

This is really really great versions of the old Genesis work, you all play fantastic!!

What about uploading the whole concert for a while.
Or is it able to get it another way maybe

Ole

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My mate and I enjoyed hearing the audition and Grand Parade last night. Remarkable stuff there, I was remiss in not saying so before.

Wouldn't mind hearing more m'self. *nonchalant* 8-D [oops, that was *chalant* -- must get those straight or I'll never fool anybody]

Meffy

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Squids

Those are some great tracks. I would love to hear the whole show also.
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jens wrote:Cheers, Georg :D

Why not listing a few favourite songs? :oops:

- White mountain - Trespass

- supper's ready - Foxtrott

- cast-utility and the coastliners - Foxtrott

- seven stones - Nursery Crime (that's one of the Genesis albums I like least all in all)

- dancing with the moonlit knight - Selling England

- firth of fifth - Selling England

- after the ordeal - Selling England

- the cinema show/aisle of plenty - Selling England
(I :love: how the record ends with the theme it started)

After that all the records sounded the same...

Yes, 'wuthering heights' is a fantastic novel :D
(though I only read it in german :oops:)

Note to self: Must start a 'favourite classic literature'-thread one day :D




'After that all the records sounded the same...' - I am kidding of course...I will continue later
You said it all, Jens! I agree totally with your choice of tunes!! I didn't like them after Gabriel and Hacket left... just an ordinary lovetunepopband. They both lost the poetic edge and the adventures in music.... listen to Supper ready and you know what I mean.

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Holy cow, 7 pages of posts on Genesis? I seem to have found my niche. You guys rule.

"The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" is my favorite. I've got both the LP (hanging in a frame on my wall) and the unremastered CD. Gabriel on lead vocals, with Collins backing him up, and an amazing sense of composition. Hearing themes from "The Carpet Crawlers" reverberating in other songs on the album is so cool. That's the kind of cross-pollenation and composition skill not normally found in popular music.

I've made it a goal to find non-remastered versions of all of their Gabriel-era albums (I dislike remasters, especially in these times of ultra-compressed rock recordings). I'm currently in search of "Tresspass" and "Nursery Cryme." I might eventually pick up "Wind and Wuthering" as well, but the Greatest Hits suffices for their later period. Collins is good at straightforward pop, but it's not my bag.

Nonetheless, my mom owned "Invisible Touch," and it's a good record. I've grown out of that style, personally, but I have fond childhood memories of the title track, as well as "Land of Confusion." Along with the Electric Light Orchestra's "Out of the Blue" album, it made for a nice gateway into prog-rock stylings. Rush was the band that eventually sealed the deal.

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Okay. I wasn't sure if anyone downloaded it or not. I am going to see if I can put it up again. I did it once about a year ago. The reason I put these two up is just because I happened to have had the mp3s on my HD. The other tunes are on another HD or on CD. I might even have some video clips I can post tomorrow maybe.

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Squids, you're some kind of all right. =^_^=

Meffy

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Sage wrote:I'm currently in search of "Tresspass" .....
LP or CD?

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Squonk wrote:
Sage wrote:I'm currently in search of "Tresspass" .....
LP or CD?
CD. Not the remastered version, though. That's easy to find.

I love LPs but only for their more prominent cover art. I've got a number of them hanging in frames in my apartment -- "Are You Experienced" by Jimi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin's fourth album (ZOSO, the one with Stairway), "Rumors" by Fleetwood Mac, "Moving Pictures" by Rush, "Fragile" by Yes, "Out of the Blue" by ELO, etc. Awesome records with fantastic covers. They make great decor.

But when it comes to listening, I prefer CDs, myself. Easier to handle, less fragile, and cleaner sound.

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I am putting together some stuff.

I'll play some actual music clips in a bit. Maybe a tune from the rehearsal because apart from the annoying hum, it sounded really good in that room at Kevin's studio. It was modeled after the Townhouse in England where Gabriel used to record.
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Unless I missed it, I'm surprised that no one has mentioned 'The Cinema Show' from SEBTP. That would easily be my favorite keyboard solo of all time. I'm listening now to a live version of it from a '78 Houston show, and it absolutely kicks.

Genesis was never particularly fond of their studio recordings from the early years, feeling they failed to capture the energy of their live performances, and I'd have to agree. 'Watcher', 'Hogweed', and 'The Knife' all have so much more power live. 'Genesis Live' is a must have, along with the first Archive for the live 'Lamb,' which is nothing short of brilliant (even with a few "corrections" from PG in the vocal department - he was wearing things like that absurd Slipperman costume, after all - try singing in THAT!).

'Second's Out' is quite good, but Hackett was rather mixed down on it, which probably helped expedite his subsequent departure from the group. Some Bill Bruford drumming when he joined the group briefly for the Trick tour as well. 'Three Sides Live' is good, particularly as it was first released in the States, with the 5 outtakes from the 'abacab' and "Duke' sessions on side 4.

If you could choose between LP or CD for the back catalog, I'd say go with CD. Genesis LP's tended to be long (50+ minutes) and so were rather of poor sound quality (low volume, dynamics. I must have bought 5 copies of ATOTT on vinyl, and I used to take immaculate care of records. I haven't heard all the remasters, but the "Duke' one was quite good, I thought. They even left in Tony's ever so slight flub on the instrumental intro for "Behind the Linesl"

Listening to Genesis has taught me a number of things that heavily influence my music to this day: the importance of strong, well-thought out chord progressions; the beauty of a well-written melodic solo; the importance of dynamics in an arrangement; and the attention to tone, atmospherics, drama, emotion and feel to create a totally immersive musical experience. For example, many G songs have odd-time signatures, but never once do they sound contrived or forced - the songs were just written that way.

Genesis from 'Nursery Cryme' to 'Duke' was pretty uniformly excellent. 'abacab' and 'Genesis' are quite good as well. 'Invisble Touch' was a bit too formualic for me and hasn't aged well. 'We Can't Dance' is a good bit better, with 'Fading Lights' as a standout track.

As an aside, I saw TMB in Milwaukee last March (an SEBTP show), and have tickets for their Lamb show in October. It was truly an awesome forgery, I must say, but I left wishing for a time machine.

To Squidz I say this: I am waiting for SS2 - deliver the goods and you'll have a customer for life. I'm a pretty tough critic when it comes to Genesis. I know you love the band, too.

P.S. Don't skip out on "Calling All Stations" - it has some excellent moments, despite what the concensus may say.

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I'm a bit late but I jump too! :D

I say go with anything on wich Gabriel sings, DOT.
But I'll be pushing Foxtrot. That's an interesting album introducing Horizon, a Hacket's classic. But Supper's ready is DA song on that one.

Can't count the number of times I was working, bored to death and wispering:

Walking across the sitting-room, I turn the television off.
Sitting beside you, I look into your eyes.
As the sound of motor cars fades in the night time,
I swear I saw your face change, it didn't seem quite right.

:)

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Paul Vicory wrote: To Squidz I say this: I am waiting for SS2 - deliver the goods and you'll have a customer for life. I'm a pretty tough critic when it comes to Genesis. I know you love the band, too.

P.S. Don't skip out on "Calling All Stations" - it has some excellent moments, despite what the concensus may say.
SS2 is kind of like a "something for everyone" kind of module because it can do the sort of general workstation thing the first one did (meat & potatoes) plus IDM, House, Trance synth stuff... all of that but then there are these classic rock and prog gems in there. I almost made a whole separate product that was going to be a vintage sound module but then I just put it all into Sonik Synth 2. In fact, I have until the end of this month to determine the final size. It may be a disc or two larger than originally planned. Same price though.

I didn't like Calling All Stations really but it was cool to me that Nick (the guy who played the Lamb with us) got to play with Mike and Tony. What a lucky SOB! But, he's also a great drummer. Chester was an amazing technical drummer but Nick had more of the loose Phil Collins feel. I would have liked to have heard Phil and Nick play together. Hey, you never know!

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Here is a full song from the rehearsal of our one off tribute to the Lamb. Back in New York City.

www.sonicreality.com/squidscorner/BiNYCrehearsal.mp3

Some people have heard the live show we did. I posted it before. But, not too many people have heard this. I myself haven't heard this in about 10 years! Time flies.

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Squids wrote: SS2 is kind of like a "something for everyone" kind of module because it can do the sort of general workstation thing the first one did (meat & potatoes) plus IDM, House, Trance synth stuff... all of that but then there are these classic rock and prog gems in there. I almost made a whole separate product that was going to be a vintage sound module but then I just put it all into Sonik Synth 2. In fact, I have until the end of this month to determine the final size. It may be a disc or two larger than originally planned. Same price though.
Well, it's classic rock and prog gems that I'm looking forward to hearing Squids. I have pretty much as much trance, house, etc. as I could ever not find a use for with the NI stuff, Xphraze, etc. What I don't have are the sounds of the artists I most admire, primarily Tony Banks, Rick Wakeman, Richard Tandy, Brian Eno, et al. Not to recreate the wheel, but as a launching pad to a new musical place.
Squids wrote:Chester was an amazing technical drummer but Nick had more of the loose Phil Collins feel.
Strangely enough, though, when Chester joined the band, I recall him saying he had to play more tightly and less groove-oriented (he is an accomplished jazz drummer, after all, so playing in a loose groove would be NOP). But Nick is excellent. On CAS, I recall Tony saying that Nir Z (who played on most of the record) didn't quite have the touch to handle 'Uncertain Weather,' and Nick was able to nail it. Check out that tune, that and the title track are really quite excellent.

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