KVR Audio

djanthonyw · Post by **djanthonyw** » Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:41 pm

Use modern technology to create more than one instance in your host. Problem solved.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:43 pm

Caine123 wrote:
bibz1st wrote:What is it with you guys keep going on about polyphony, the Pro One was mono, Repro is mono, Urs has said that's the way its stayin so quit bangin on about it for fecks sake...

yeah stay old school and dont use the possibilities of today's techhnology! hooray!

Except here is the problem, as Urs said better than I or anyone else can say. The reason Repro-1 sounds like it does is because everything was put into the sound itself. With 1 note polyphony, I'm hitting 20-30% CPU usage because of everything that has been put in to creating that sound. Imagine now you want even just 4 note polyphony, like the Oberheim 4 Voice from years ago. How big a CPU hit do you think such an instrument would take, keeping the sound exactly the same, if even possible?

And if it is, you're not getting it for $99. I can tell you that.

So you have to decide what you want for this kind of money. You want a fully polyphonic Repro-1 (up to even just 16 note polyphony) then you better be prepared to spend a good $200 on it.

Decide.

bibz1st · Post by **bibz1st** » Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:51 pm

I honestly believe what has been added to it beyond the original capabilities of Pro One is more than enough to justify it as it is without ruining it. In other words, its a pro one with some nice features added, whereas if polyphony was introduced then it would not be a pro one anymore

exmatproton · Post by **exmatproton** » Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:52 pm

wagtunes wrote:
Caine123 wrote:
bibz1st wrote:What is it with you guys keep going on about polyphony, the Pro One was mono, Repro is mono, Urs has said that's the way its stayin so quit bangin on about it for fecks sake...

yeah stay old school and dont use the possibilities of today's techhnology! hooray!
Except here is the problem, as Urs said better than I or anyone else can say. The reason Repro-1 sounds like it does is because everything was put into the sound itself. With 1 note polyphony, I'm hitting 20-30% CPU usage because of everything that has been put in to creating that sound. Imagine now you want even just 4 note polyphony, like the Oberheim 4 Voice from years ago. How big a CPU hit do you think such an instrument would take, keeping the sound exactly the same, if even possible?

And if it is, you're not getting it for $99. I can tell you that.

So you have to decide what you want for this kind of money. You want a fully polyphonic Repro-1 (up to even just 16 note polyphony) then you better be prepared to spend a good $200 on it.

Decide.

my 6 voice repro set-up hits 30 cpu at HQ settings

Cinebient · Post by **Cinebient** » Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:01 pm

Isn't it simple?
If you don't like a mono Repro-1, don't buy!
There are million nice poly synths (also from U-he).
Or, like others and myself already said, use modern tech of today to make it polyphonic.
If your cpu can't handle that, accept that or buy a faster machine if you want to use it this way.
It's just not possible and it slows down developement to support old OS and machines.
The desktop world is very very slow here to addopt in general. If that goes on we get only the newest things for smartphones/tablets in a few years.
I think U-he try what they can to make it usable on as many maschines and OS as possible but i wish they even would push it faster further.
If the sound is something special and a single voice will eat my cpu, it's fine.
If people don't like that....again, don't buy, move on!

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:05 pm

wagtunes wrote:With 1 note polyphony, I'm hitting 20-30% CPU usage because of everything that has been put in to creating that sound.

Have you tried the new beta? - It has a "HQ" and a "zZz" button on the top bar, next to preset save, and it's generally more than 30% faster than the initial beta. This should bring CPU usage down for you as well.

Vortifex · Post by **Vortifex** » Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:16 pm

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:19 pm

Cinebient wrote:Isn't it simple?
If you don't like a mono Repro-1, don't buy!
There are million nice poly synths (also from U-he).
Or, like others and myself already said, use modern tech of today to make it polyphonic.
If your cpu can't handle that, accept that or buy a faster machine if you want to use it this way.
It's just not possible and it slows down developement to support old OS and machines.
The desktop world is very very slow here to addopt in general. If that goes on we get only the newest things for smartphones/tablets in a few years.
I think U-he try what they can to make it usable on as many maschines and OS as possible but i wish they even would push it faster further.
If the sound is something special and a single voice will eat my cpu, it's fine.
If people don't like that....again, don't buy, move on!

i just dont get why diva can do polyphony and is older + also a great sounding plugin?
what does repro have what diva couldnt?

cowudders · Post by **cowudders** » Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:23 pm

The more I play around with this Repro, listening to some really great patches, the more I find that the effects are just totally great! The synth sounds totally like a real analog synth but with those effect chains, it's really something different .... Fantastically tuned to cool ranges, great interfaces, pure fun.

Any chance DIVA will get those 5 also?

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:27 pm

Do we need to spin in circles endlessly?

I honestly find it kind of offensive that people just ignore whatever I/we have already said on the issue. It's entering troll territory when people just keep iterating the same question and ignore the answers given, like, hmmm, twice every other page of every thread about the topic.

Jax Pok · Post by **Jax Pok** » Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:27 pm

Caine123 wrote:
Cinebient wrote:Isn't it simple?
If you don't like a mono Repro-1, don't buy!
There are million nice poly synths (also from U-he).
Or, like others and myself already said, use modern tech of today to make it polyphonic.
If your cpu can't handle that, accept that or buy a faster machine if you want to use it this way.
It's just not possible and it slows down developement to support old OS and machines.
The desktop world is very very slow here to addopt in general. If that goes on we get only the newest things for smartphones/tablets in a few years.
I think U-he try what they can to make it usable on as many maschines and OS as possible but i wish they even would push it faster further.
If the sound is something special and a single voice will eat my cpu, it's fine.
If people don't like that....again, don't buy, move on!
i just dont get why diva can do polyphony and is older + also a great sounding plugin?
what does repro have what diva couldnt?

Goal was 100% emulation of the Pro-One, it is mono.
Repro-1 has the tone of Pro-One, DIVA doesn't.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:28 pm

cowudders wrote:The more I play around with this Repro, listening to some really great patches, the more I find that the effects are just totally great! The synth sounds totally like a real analog synth but with those effect chains, it's really something different .... Fantastically tuned to cool ranges, great interfaces, pure fun.

Hehe thanks

Any chance DIVA will get those 5 also?

Not sure about JAWs, but yes, the others might get there...

RichN · Post by **RichN** » Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:29 pm

I don't need a polyphonic Pro One. All I want is the ultimate emulation of the Prophet 5.

Jax Pok · Post by **Jax Pok** » Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:30 pm

JAWs is one of the best effects I've ever used wish I could use it on everything. I'll be buying Repro-1 next pay day.

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:34 pm

i think when diva will get the sequencer + the effects section repro is obsolete

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Repro-1 (out now)

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