Been about 3 months since I used PT. Thought Id fix up a vocal track Id been working on from Ableton. So I drag the wavs in and it fixes it's own tempo for one track, the others it stretches to different tempo. None of them align or can be aligned to the same starting point. Cant minimize the screen to go to desktop because PT doesn't come back on again so had to close down, it doesn't relaunch, had to reboot computer, this daw is a bloody joke! I was so freakin close to putting my fist through the screen and spend 500 on a new one. I wonder if I did would Avid compensate me? Probably not given you actually have to pay them money just to get any support.
Pretty obvious why people are turning away from Avid in droves.
Protools: the WORST daw on the planet
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- 1779 posts since 26 Aug, 2012
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- KVRAF
- 7120 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden
Always frustration with tools that does not assist you - and have their own will.
It sounds like an issue with having some clips marked on wrong timebase - musical/absolute time or whatever it is called.
If you want clips to follow an adjustment in tempo - it should be musical. Extending a clip then stretch it.
But this is Cubase terms - don't know what ProTools calls it. I think Sonar calls it yet something else.
Some daws use tempo as clips were recorded as a start, like StudioOne, some don't. Some have to adjust project tempo to imported media as a setting for importing media. Some do samplerate conversions to project - others do that resampling in realtime anyway, imported clips stay as they are.
So plenty of places it can go wrong.
You have to learn each daw - and some are more intuitive than others.
It sounds like an issue with having some clips marked on wrong timebase - musical/absolute time or whatever it is called.
If you want clips to follow an adjustment in tempo - it should be musical. Extending a clip then stretch it.
But this is Cubase terms - don't know what ProTools calls it. I think Sonar calls it yet something else.
Some daws use tempo as clips were recorded as a start, like StudioOne, some don't. Some have to adjust project tempo to imported media as a setting for importing media. Some do samplerate conversions to project - others do that resampling in realtime anyway, imported clips stay as they are.
So plenty of places it can go wrong.
You have to learn each daw - and some are more intuitive than others.
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- 1779 posts since 26 Aug, 2012
Ive learned this daw and know it like the back of my hand and mixed several tracks in it but this is the first time this thing's happened. There's a little blue upside down marker at the start of the wav, never seen that before. The wavs were bounced at the correct sample rate in ableton, theoretically it shouldn't do it. But the point Im making is if it isn't one thing with PTs its something else.lfm wrote:Always frustration with tools that does not assist you - and have their own will.
It sounds like an issue with having some clips marked on wrong timebase - musical/absolute time or whatever it is called.
If you want clips to follow an adjustment in tempo - it should be musical. Extending a clip then stretch it.
But this is Cubase terms - don't know what ProTools calls it. I think Sonar calls it yet something else.
Some daws use tempo as clips were recorded as a start, like StudioOne, some don't. Some have to adjust project tempo to imported media as a setting for importing media. Some do samplerate conversions to project - others do that resampling in realtime anyway, imported clips stay as they are.
So plenty of places it can go wrong.
You have to learn each daw - and some are more intuitive than others.
Ableton runs flawlessly. Surely it isn't too much to ask to expect the most expensive daw on the market to do the same.
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35520 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
sounds like a sample rate conversion issue.So I drag the wavs in and it fixes it's own tempo for one track, the others it stretches to different tempo.
tried going through the import dialog, and using 'Convert' to ensure they get SRC?Kinh wrote:Ive learned this daw and know it like the back of my hand
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRAF
- 7120 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden
And possibly check if difference when drag-n-drop or using an import dialog.whyterabbyt wrote:sounds like a sample rate conversion issue.So I drag the wavs in and it fixes it's own tempo for one track, the others it stretches to different tempo.
tried going through the import dialog, and using 'Convert' to ensure they get SRC?Kinh wrote:Ive learned this daw and know it like the back of my hand
I tested in Samplitude ProX2 and they used standard stretch algos when doing drag-n-drop, not the high quality src available on demand.
Don't know about PT.
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- KVRian
- 1356 posts since 21 Sep, 2013 from California
I'm not an expert, but PT's elastic audio will change to the DAW's tempo if you don't turn it off before importing. Especially if you are using the workspace to import from. The blue thing sounds like that. I would set the tempo on PT to match Ableton before importing anything. I recently did a school project where I dragged and dropped audio into a PT session and did not have this issue, but I set the tempo first.
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- KVRAF
- 4749 posts since 15 Jul, 2001 from Holmfirth, West Yorkshire, U.K
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- KVRAF
- 2991 posts since 13 Apr, 2008 from Charleston, SC
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- KVRAF
- 6159 posts since 4 Dec, 2004
Afaik (or can recall) every daw that stretches audio has a way to turn stretching off. I'm certain that applies to PT also and that the OP simply can't find (or doesn't know about) the option or preference setting to turn off stretching or stretching on import or similar.
Too many people mix audio stems in PT for a living for that not to be true.
Too many people mix audio stems in PT for a living for that not to be true.
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- KVRian
- 1356 posts since 21 Sep, 2013 from California
As I said, it has been a while. But there is a little icon that looks like a little tower that if on when you drag and drop audio, will stretch it to the time in PT. I don't think it affects importing audio. The simple fix, if you can't find the switch, is to set PT's tempo to the tempo you want before dragging and dropping.