Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - 1.8.5 the main thread

[godly]

Apologies if this has already been asked - but is the Expansion Pack format like Nexus in that only packs sold by Vengeance/ReFX can be used, or is it an open format where 3rd party developers/end users can create their own addon packs ?

sure. it's no rompler

What formats can be imported?

[kiezum]

also the Synth will get -20%

so 199€ -20%

That's great! I may buy this synth.

[jjdejong0]

Will this synth require a dongle?

[Tet-64]

Only the one between your legs

[Muziksculp]

I'm looking forward to the official release of AVENGER.

Is the release date Dec. 1st ?

Yes.

May coincide with the release of Cubase 9.
Could be a busy and expensive day.

Yes, that will make Dec. 1st a busy, and expensive day, but also very Cool

[goleat]

Is it possible to create round robin patches with audio samples?

[msvs]

no, round robin is not possible
creating gigantic orchestra libraries isnt what Avenger is made for. Nexus is our tool for that.

[Sampleconstruct]

no, round robin is not possible
creating gigantic orchestra libraries isnt what Avenger is made for. Nexus is our tool for that.

Well, especially for drums and percussion round robin is essential, be it electronic or acoustic sounds.

[noiseboyuk]

Well, especially for drums and percussion round robin is essential, be it electronic or acoustic sounds.

For acoustic yes, electronic no.

The answer re Nexus makes sense. Despite the protestations, I think Avenger is likely to significantly eat into Nexus' market. It's better than Nexus for electronic music in almost every regard, even in terms of its preset management (which In Nexus, a preset machine, is lamentable). If the older product is to continue, there has to be some advantages to it, and management of larger sample content is pretty much it. That said, personally I don't think it will be enough - Nexus has never really been an attractive product for serious multisampled libraries, the Hollywood series is more about one-key instant orchestras with all the limitations that implies - it does these very well, but it's not enough to turn it into a Kontakt Player rival.

[EDIT - bonus thought, I think the release date of Dec 1 could be significant. We might see some big discounts in this years Nexus sale]

[ljpro1]

I could see a nice Cinematic Expansion with all the sound design possibilities . . . swooshes, Impacts, Drones, Modular and Futuristic Interface sounds. . . . .

[xanthos]

Is there a exact release time available when Avenger launches?

[msvs]

The answer re Nexus makes sense. Despite the protestations, I think Avenger is likely to significantly eat into Nexus' market.

not necessarily. If you argue that way, every synth on the market, which is capable of EDM sounds is a competitor to nexus. In fact, Avenger has a total different approach than Nexus. While in Avenger you can design every bit in the sound, Nexus is a preset player. And this is no negative thing, quite the contrary: Nexus is very easy to use, fast to use and browse, has extraordinary low CPU consumption (I can open more than 50 Instances in a project!), it has a gigantig high quality library, growing since 10 years, and last but not least, its capable of large (cinematic( libraries, due to its architecture.
For music producers / composer, which are focussing more on producing a track, than sound design, Nexus is still the ultimate tool to get.

[noiseboyuk]

not necessarily. If you argue that way, every synth on the market, which is capable of EDM sounds is a competitor to nexus. In fact, Avenger has a total different approach than Nexus. While in Avenger you can design every bit in the sound, Nexus is a preset player. And this is no negative thing, quite the contrary: Nexus is very easy to use, fast to use and browse, has extraordinary low CPU consumption (I can open more than 50 Instances in a project!), it has a gigantig high quality library, growing since 10 years, and last but not least, its capable of large (cinematic( libraries, due to its architecture.
For music producers / composer, which are focussing more on producing a track, than sound design, Nexus is still the ultimate tool to get.

Low CPU is a fair point, but (aside from the increased sample capabilities) there's not much else persuasive about Nexus any more for me. I have Nexus 2, and bought it for when needing to sound authentic when writing in a genre in media work. Pretty much from Day 1 my biggest beef with it is that it's really extremely bad at its core function - handling presets. In the many years it has been on the market, I'd have thought they'd have found the time to improve the browser and add tags to their core library and expansion, for example. By contrast, with Avenger you can drill down to your desired sounds in seconds (as was the case with Omni 1, before Omni 2 bloated its tags out the water) - it would seem to be considerably better at handling presets than the preset player. And if presets are really all you want from Avenger, well, don't touch the knobs I guess...

Also there's some unavoidable similarities between Avenger and Nexus. Its sonics and preset designs bear all the same hallmarks - this is what made Nexus attractive to many of us to begin with, presets designed by masters of their particular field and quick to work with. Avenger's ability to be used on more than one authorisation is the final nail in Nexus' coffin for me - unless there are drastic discounts, my time of keeping Nexus up to date with expansions is over.

Others mileage may vary of course, but that's how this Nexus owner sees it.

[bootlegger]

Avenger's ability to be used on more than one authorisation is the final nail in Nexus' coffin for me - unless there are drastic discounts, my time of keeping Nexus up to date with expansions is over.

Others mileage may vary of course, but that's how this Nexus owner sees it.

I think they will still compliment each other. But they will have to focus more on non-electronical acoustic expansions on the Nexus since the electronical part is mostly covered in Avenger...I hope.

I think Nexus is still great for it's ease of use, ready to go presets and low cpu consumption. But yea, it's editing options are quite limited and that's where Avenger hopefully comes in.

PS. I read somewhere that Avenger will not be using a hardware dongle for authorisation.
Will I be able to install Avenger on 2 seperate systems (desktop/laptop) owning 1 license?
That would be cool, because I hate dragging a dongle on my laptop.

[msvs]

we allow 3 systems