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Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:37 pm

Avenger getting 3 page review, 10 out 10 rating, as well as Ed's Choice, Performance and Innovation awards, in latest Computer Music

They compare it to Omnisphere 2 and Serum, so it can double up or take over for those synths?

"[Serum got] Better wavetable editing, but Avenger wins in all other regards"

bronxsound · Post by **bronxsound** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:04 pm

^in that case i will buy two licenses

on a serious note, this is unlikely happen before the promo ends so maybe somewhere next year. you lucky bast$$%ds who have spare cash to blow

tedannemann · Post by **tedannemann** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:04 pm

lvndr wrote:
msvs wrote:indeed, there are plans to expand Nexus' browser in a future update
As a user, I'm really happy to hear this and hopefully Nexus will also use the same authorization method as Avenger in future.

Funny clown you

. So that the $4000 dollar someone payed for the complete version go down the drain and the neighborhood kids are downloading Nexus for free. Ha, ha, no way dude, no way!
I really hope that the new authorization system is working out for Vengeance but I have my doubts...
Anyway can't wait to test this beast and wish Manuel and the Keilwerth guys a great product launch!

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:05 pm

Numanoid wrote:Avenger getting 3 page review, 10 out 10 rating, as well as Ed's Choice, Performance and Innovation awards, in latest Computer Music

They compare it to Omnisphere 2 and Serum, so it can double up or take over for those synths?

"[Serum got] Better wavetable editing, but Avenger wins in all other regards"

I think it is plain stupid to compare avenger with omnisphere 2 as omnisphere is no wavetable synth. Avenger has no half baked granular part. Omnisphere has a laaaaaaarge Sample Library too etc.

Avenger should be compared to Serum, Rapid etc

Now please Start the Avenger vs Rapid very soon

kevvvvv · Post by **kevvvvv** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:12 pm

@Numanoid

Avenger getting 3 page review, 10 out 10 rating, as well as Ed's Choice, Performance and Innovation awards, in latest Computer Music

Thanks for the headsup

Cinebient · Post by **Cinebient** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:14 pm

Caine123 wrote:i really hope too for Cinematic XP and PLEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASE an authentic SID XP?
should be no prob with avenger hopefully , quadrasid is abandoned......

Yes, Cinematic XP would be a thing.
However, the today released iWavestation and tomorrow this monster will let me drift away for a good while

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:28 pm

I didn't realize that Avenger hasn't been released yet.

It is quite seldom CM reviews a plug before it is released, smells a bit of promo that ...

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:16 pm

BTW, Keilwerth Audio might find it fitting to add a new news item to their website six years after the last one, when Avenger launches December 1st.

http://www.keilwerth-audio.com/

Will Avenger require Steinberg eLicenser?

Gregorius · Post by **Gregorius** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:23 pm

Numanoid wrote:I didn't realize that Avenger hasn't been released yet.

It is quite seldom CM reviews a plug before it is released, smells a bit of promo that ...

Of course they had a deal or it is paid or it was a friend of Manuel who wrote that. No matter how both parties may deny it. Anyways I'm going to demo it and see myself how good or bad it is. Personally it don't need another edm synth (which it clearly sounds like) or expansion collection. Featurewise it just looks like a mix of the last 5 popular synths

So nothing really new to explore.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:32 pm

Gregorius wrote:
Numanoid wrote:I didn't realize that Avenger hasn't been released yet.

It is quite seldom CM reviews a plug before it is released, smells a bit of promo that ...
Of course they had a deal or it is paid or it was a friend of Manuel who wrote that. No matter how both parties may deny it. Anyways I'm going to demo it and see myself how good or bad it is. Personally it don't need another edm synth (which it clearly sounds like) or expansion collection. Featurewise it just looks like a mix of the last 5 popular synths So nothing really new to explore.

Look, I don't have a horse in this race so take these comments with a grain of salt.

I have almost every synth under the sun.

The only synth in this league is Falcon.

Where I like this over Falcon is that it is infinitely easier to program. The layout is as flawless as you could want. Everything is right there in front of you.

Sound wise, it can do a whole lot more than EDM but unfortunately, because that's the world we're forced to live in, that's how this thing has been showcased, at least so far.

Trust me. After programming close to 100 patches, this thing is capable of producing just about anything including 70s prog, 80s new wave and even acoustic instruments.

This has hands down become my favorite all around synth.

Even if it can do supersaw, wub wub crap.

Cinebient · Post by **Cinebient** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:39 pm

wagtunes wrote:
Gregorius wrote:
Numanoid wrote:I didn't realize that Avenger hasn't been released yet.

It is quite seldom CM reviews a plug before it is released, smells a bit of promo that ...
Of course they had a deal or it is paid or it was a friend of Manuel who wrote that. No matter how both parties may deny it. Anyways I'm going to demo it and see myself how good or bad it is. Personally it don't need another edm synth (which it clearly sounds like) or expansion collection. Featurewise it just looks like a mix of the last 5 popular synths So nothing really new to explore.
Look, I don't have a horse in this race so take these comments with a grain of salt.

I have almost every synth under the sun.

The only synth in this league is Falcon.

Where I like this over Falcon is that it is infinitely easier to program. The layout is as flawless as you could want. Everything is right there in front of you.

Sound wise, it can do a whole lot more than EDM but unfortunately, because that's the world we're forced to live in, that's how this thing has been showcased, at least so far.

Trust me. After programming close to 100 patches, this thing is capable of producing just about anything including 70s prog, 80s new wave and even acoustic instruments.

This has hands down become my favorite all around synth.

Even if it can do supersaw, wub wub crap.

Might i ask you how you find the cpu usage compared to Falcon with similar complex patches.
I love Falcon but i can´t get nearly as wild as i want because of cpu (and lack of multi-core support).
I was hoping Avenger fits better here. The GUI at least already looks much better and user friendly to me.... but still have to try for myself.

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:41 pm

I don't even have the synth yet but I am 100% confident due to the extensive videos posted and the manual. How somebody can be in any doubt is beyond me. This thing is going to be epic!

.. and I also have almost every synth under the sun (including Falcon and Omnisphere 2).

Cinebient · Post by **Cinebient** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:45 pm

bmanic wrote:I don't even have the synth yet but I am 100% confident due to the extensive videos posted and the manual. How somebody can be in any doubt is beyond me. This thing is going to be epic!

.. and I also have almost every synth under the sun (including Falcon and Omnisphere 2).

I think the same. The only thing which scares me was the cpu in some of the videos

Maybe it´s not a problem, otherwise...insta buy!!

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:46 pm

Cinebient wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
Gregorius wrote:
Numanoid wrote:I didn't realize that Avenger hasn't been released yet.

It is quite seldom CM reviews a plug before it is released, smells a bit of promo that ...
Of course they had a deal or it is paid or it was a friend of Manuel who wrote that. No matter how both parties may deny it. Anyways I'm going to demo it and see myself how good or bad it is. Personally it don't need another edm synth (which it clearly sounds like) or expansion collection. Featurewise it just looks like a mix of the last 5 popular synths So nothing really new to explore.
Look, I don't have a horse in this race so take these comments with a grain of salt.

I have almost every synth under the sun.

The only synth in this league is Falcon.

Where I like this over Falcon is that it is infinitely easier to program. The layout is as flawless as you could want. Everything is right there in front of you.

Sound wise, it can do a whole lot more than EDM but unfortunately, because that's the world we're forced to live in, that's how this thing has been showcased, at least so far.

Trust me. After programming close to 100 patches, this thing is capable of producing just about anything including 70s prog, 80s new wave and even acoustic instruments.

This has hands down become my favorite all around synth.

Even if it can do supersaw, wub wub crap.
Might i ask you how you find the cpu usage compared to Falcon with similar complex patches.
I love Falcon but i can´t get nearly as wild as i want because of cpu (and lack of multi-core support).
I was hoping Avenger fits better here. The GUI at least already looks much better and user friendly to me.... but still have to try for myself.

Honestly, I haven't been paying attention to it. But the patch I have loaded now, with 4 notes held down at once, is around 15%. That's 2 oscillators.

I'd guess that this thing could really pack a CPU punch if you went hog wild. I don't see how it can't. But that's true of any synth this complex. My Omni 2 has buckled on me with some of the patches I've created. After 20 instances, I have to start freezing tracks.

That's simply the nature of the beast.

nordickvr · Post by **nordickvr** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:46 pm

Numanoid wrote:Will Avenger require Steinberg eLicenser?

No.

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