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ATS · Post by **ATS** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:49 pm

nordickvr wrote:
Numanoid wrote:Will Avenger require Steinberg eLicenser?
No.

can we use one if we want to?

Cinebient · Post by **Cinebient** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:51 pm

wagtunes wrote:
Cinebient wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
Gregorius wrote:
Numanoid wrote:I didn't realize that Avenger hasn't been released yet.

It is quite seldom CM reviews a plug before it is released, smells a bit of promo that ...
Of course they had a deal or it is paid or it was a friend of Manuel who wrote that. No matter how both parties may deny it. Anyways I'm going to demo it and see myself how good or bad it is. Personally it don't need another edm synth (which it clearly sounds like) or expansion collection. Featurewise it just looks like a mix of the last 5 popular synths So nothing really new to explore.
Look, I don't have a horse in this race so take these comments with a grain of salt.

I have almost every synth under the sun.

The only synth in this league is Falcon.

Where I like this over Falcon is that it is infinitely easier to program. The layout is as flawless as you could want. Everything is right there in front of you.

Sound wise, it can do a whole lot more than EDM but unfortunately, because that's the world we're forced to live in, that's how this thing has been showcased, at least so far.

Trust me. After programming close to 100 patches, this thing is capable of producing just about anything including 70s prog, 80s new wave and even acoustic instruments.

This has hands down become my favorite all around synth.

Even if it can do supersaw, wub wub crap.
Might i ask you how you find the cpu usage compared to Falcon with similar complex patches.
I love Falcon but i can´t get nearly as wild as i want because of cpu (and lack of multi-core support).
I was hoping Avenger fits better here. The GUI at least already looks much better and user friendly to me.... but still have to try for myself.
Honestly, I haven't been paying attention to it. But the patch I have loaded now, with 4 notes held down at once, is around 15%. That's 2 oscillators.

I'd guess that this thing could really pack a CPU punch if you went hog wild. I don't see how it can't. But that's true of any synth this complex. My Omni 2 has buckled on me with some of the patches I've created. After 20 instances, I have to start freezing tracks.

That's simply the nature of the beast.

Thank´s!
As long as i can run 1 very wild instance i can live with it. Falcon gets out of control when i go wild and it blows my i7 (notebook) quadcore.
Not the bread and butter stuff but if i get a synth without limits....i try to use it

nordickvr · Post by **nordickvr** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:57 pm

ATS wrote:
nordickvr wrote:
Numanoid wrote:Will Avenger require Steinberg eLicenser?
No.

can we use one if we want to?

To my knowledge no, but let Manuel confirm that.

msvs · Post by **msvs** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:58 pm

no, its not possible

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:42 pm

Where is the xp3 Demo

msvs · Post by **msvs** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:45 pm

ohhh, I forgot

THE COUNTDOWN HAS BEGUN! 1 day until VPS Avenger lands! everyday from now, there will be a new EXPANSION demo for you! Today: "Trap & Moombahton XP"

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 7:02 pm

Not against Avenger but this Sounds repetitive and awkward.
Gruss imma get the Future xp

kevvvvv · Post by **kevvvvv** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 7:44 pm

wag

I haven't looked at falcon before (i know, i know

), but on your enthusiastic say-so, I checked out the site and the vids.

Limitless possibilities. I can see why you're so excited.

But 349 to buy.

This was a jaw dropper.

Omnisphere inspired price i guess.

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 7:49 pm

I wonder why such a strictly EDM-targeted marketing/presentation is necessary for Avenger. I mean there is a lot of money to earn by directing the marketing at composers and musicians also from other genres, no?

elassi · Post by **elassi** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 7:55 pm

Sampleconstruct wrote:I wonder why such a strictly EDM-targeted marketing/presentation is necessary for Avenger. I mean there is a lot of money to earn by directing the marketing at composers and musicians also from other genres, no?

OTH you can call yourself a lucky guy as they leave the niche for you.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 7:57 pm

Sampleconstruct wrote:I wonder why such a strictly EDM-targeted marketing/presentation is necessary for Avenger. I mean there is a lot of money to earn by directing the marketing at composers and musicians also from other genres, no?

Well, if you take a look at what Vengeance-Sound's preferred market is, and how many products they did for that market, then it does make sense. And considering that literally any synth developer out there, apart from a few, also server that market, at least with the way they present their synths, it makes even more sense. But, regardless of that, this synth will be good for ANY musical genre, and i think you do know that anyway, so why even bother?

kiezum · Post by **kiezum** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 7:59 pm

I agree, the demo's of the soundsets are ten a penny, unimaginative and uninspiring. Why? This seems to be a synth with so many creative possibilities.

I would like soundsets with all kinds of interesting samples, wavetables and presets for different parts of the synth (like the envelopes, filter, arpegiator and stepsequencer) to easily build my own sounds. Not ready made presets for a music style.

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:07 pm

chk071 wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:I wonder why such a strictly EDM-targeted marketing/presentation is necessary for Avenger. I mean there is a lot of money to earn by directing the marketing at composers and musicians also from other genres, no?
Well, if you take a look at what Vengeance-Sound's preferred market is, and how many products they did for that market, then it does make sense. And considering that literally any synth developer out there, apart from a few, also server that market, at least with the way they present their synths, it makes even more sense. But, regardless of that, this synth will be good for ANY musical genre, and i think you do know that anyway, so why even bother?

I bother because I'm highly allergic against these kind of stereotype sounds and it's driving me away from Avenger although it could be a nice instrument in my arsenal. And because I'm in discussion mode today.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:11 pm

Hehe. I'd say forget about it, and take it for what it is.

I'm sure you'll get some nice sounds out of it, regardless of the many EDM expansions coming out for it. It surely doesn't serve the same market as e.g. Falcon does, but, i think Manuel, and the guys behind it, are doing a great job with this. At least i would predict that it will become very successful.

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:12 pm

elassi wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:I wonder why such a strictly EDM-targeted marketing/presentation is necessary for Avenger. I mean there is a lot of money to earn by directing the marketing at composers and musicians also from other genres, no?
OTH you can call yourself a lucky guy as they leave the niche for you.

I'm not so convinced yet.

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