Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - 1.8.5 the main thread

[msvs]

here it is:

http://www.vengeance-sound.com/faq_avenger.php

any questions I missed?

Yes, how can you save your own presets in your own created pack? Can't find a button for it, I am only able to save presets using "save as" to a file or overwriting presets in the factory pack...

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Will there be an update which adds more cycles to a wavetable?? I mean, 128 is just way to low. I would rather see a minimum of 1024 or 2048

we are able to do 256... most factory wavetables only use 128 or even 8, 12 or 64 because thats enough for this specific table. However we blend and calculate "between" steps. In reality we have something like 10.000 table steps. When creating your own Wavetables (with the "resampler" in Avenger) you can chose 256 as the maximum.

I can't make the Arpeggiator, Step Sequencer or Drum Sequencer work on my patches

To use any of these, they must be both switched on AND also routed from the Osc routing section.

How do I play individual drum sounds when using the drum sequencer?

At the moment, you can use either the drum sequencer OR play the individual drum sounds but not both at the same time. You choose between them by either routing to the drum sequencer in the Osc section, or bypassing.

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[Sampleconstruct]

here it is:

http://www.vengeance-sound.com/faq_avenger.php

any questions I missed?

Please add that parallel filter processing is not possible, only serial.

[Sampleconstruct]

here it is:

http://www.vengeance-sound.com/faq_avenger.php

any questions I missed?

Please add that parallel filter processing is not possible, only serial.

And please add that fiter readout is only in percentage, not Hertz values.

[msvs]

why? Both was never advertised

*edit while the last point, adding a hz readout is very easy to implement in one of the next updates, if this is really necessary. But paralell filters will not come, at least not in the very next time.

[ATS]

why? Both was never advertised

*edit while the last point, adding a hz readout is very easy to implement in one of the next updates, if this is really necessary. But paralell filters will not come, at least not in the very next time.

I think he just wants to feel a part of the whole thing

[msvs]

then he should have participated in the beta test. Seems he could have contributed many ideas

[exmatproton]

Will there be an update which adds more cycles to a wavetable?? I mean, 128 is just way to low. I would rather see a minimum of 1024 or 2048

we are able to do 256... most factory wavetables only use 128 or even 8, 12 or 64 because thats enough for this specific table. However we blend and calculate "between" steps. In reality we have something like 10.000 table steps. When creating your own Wavetables (with the "resampler" in Avenger) you can chose 256 as the maximum.

In that case, can you eleborate on the fact that slow movement on the index knob (or envelope for that matter) sounds choppy? I have done a test with different synths (Icarus, Rapid, Nave, Largo, Serum), where modulating the wt index on Avenger sounds quite steppy on the smoothtest setting. Is there a way to make it more smooth? I mean, 10,000 table steps should make the sound butter smooth, even when modulating very slowly. But when i do that, you can easily hear the steps in between the cycles. Which is ugly.

[Ingonator]

why? Both was never advertised

*edit while the last point, adding a hz readout is very easy to implement in one of the next updates, if this is really necessary. But paralell filters will not come, at least not in the very next time.

At the moment the most simple way to emulate a parallel filter with a single Osc is to add a second Osc, copy the settings of Osc 1 by copy and paste and route each of those 2 Oscs to it's own filter.
If you like you could also use an own Amp (including it's own envelope) for each of those (you could use up to 4 Amps in Avenger).

While with a single Osc it does not seem to be possible to use parallel filters you could use up to 4 filters in series with that single Osc. Additionally when using a wavetable or single cycle waveform you also got the FFT filter as an additional filter.

[exmatproton]

why? Both was never advertised

*edit while the last point, adding a hz readout is very easy to implement in one of the next updates, if this is really necessary. But paralell filters will not come, at least not in the very next time.

Hertz readout would be awesome imho!

[Sampleconstruct]

why? Both was never advertised

*edit while the last point, adding a hz readout is very easy to implement in one of the next updates, if this is really necessary. But paralell filters will not come, at least not in the very next time.

I didn't claim it was advertised, still I spent a considerable amount of time yesterday trying to figure it out. Do as you wish of course, it was a suggestion only.

[msvs]

In that case, can you eleborate on the fact that slow movement on the index knob (or envelope for that matter) sounds choppy?

its not the architecture, its then the wavetable itself.
Go to the "harmonic" wavetable folder and select one of the harmonic sine sweeps for example. They should, no they must, sound smooth like butter. Otherwise there is something wrong

[Sampleconstruct]

why? Both was never advertised

*edit while the last point, adding a hz readout is very easy to implement in one of the next updates, if this is really necessary. But paralell filters will not come, at least not in the very next time.

I think he just wants to feel a part of the whole thing

Happy thinking.

[exmatproton]

In that case, can you eleborate on the fact that slow movement on the index knob (or envelope for that matter) sounds choppy?

its not the architecture, its then the wavetable itself.
Go to the "harmonic" wavetable folder and select one of the harmonic sine sweeps for example. They should, no they must, sound smooth like butter. Otherwise there is something wrong

For my test, i used a basic PWM wavetable (because a pulse creates some heavy modulating sounds in the higher regimes, which is great to hear the potential of a good synth, imho). I did not try sine sweeps as of yet.

[msvs]

I didn't claim it was advertised, still I spent a considerable amount of time yesterday trying to figure it out. Do as you wish of course, it was a suggestion only.

its already on the "nice to have" list for the future. "I" did not miss that function anytime when creating the content, but of course, it would be a good addition. At least you can already simulate paralell filtering by just using 2 identical oscs routet on two different filters if needed.

For my test, i used a basic PWM wavetable

then it was this wavetable. Please try the harmonic sine as described.
PWM is something you should do in realtime with our "formant" knob

[Ingonator]

I didn't claim it was advertised, still I spent a considerable amount of time yesterday trying to figure it out. Do as you wish of course, it was a suggestion only.

its already on the "nice to have" list for the future. "I" did not miss that function anytime when creating the content, but of course, it would be a good addition. At least you can already simulate paralell filtering by just using 2 identical oscs routet on two different filters if needed.

For my test, i used a basic PWM wavetable

then it was this wavetable. Please try the harmonic sine as described.
PWM is something you should do in realtime with our "formant" knob

There is also a PWM wavetable within my 78 wavetables available at the free content downlaod at the official website.
This wavetable was craeted using Resynthesis of PWM in my Novation Bass Station II (modulation of the PW using the mod enveloep in the synth). This is bipolar PWM so the Square is at the center of the wavetable. This should correspond to a pulse width between 5% and 95% (with 50% = Square).