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headquest · Post by **headquest** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 12:36 pm

Regarding Samplitude Pro 7, I checked back the review in Computer Music (issue 58, April 2003) and they only gave it 7/10.

Against the current trend of simplifying workflow, Samplitude apparently... well, let me quote:

"Magix have pulled a moony in the face of this accumulated wisdom and come up with an interface for Samplitude which, while workable, sports more windows than Buckingham Palace".

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 3:25 pm

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Steffen Fuerst · Post by **Steffen Fuerst** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 3:34 pm

headquest wrote:Regarding Samplitude Pro 7, I checked back the review in Computer Music (issue 58, April 2003) and they only gave it 7/10.

Against the current trend of simplifying workflow, Samplitude apparently... well, let me quote:

"Magix have pulled a moony in the face of this accumulated wisdom and come up with an interface for Samplitude which, while workable, sports more windows than Buckingham Palace".

They must used another program then me, one point i really like at Samplitude is, that it uses much less windows then cubase and logic (i even didn't miss screensets because i can do the most stuff in the arrangement-view anyway).

Steffen Fuerst · Post by **Steffen Fuerst** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 3:38 pm

ttoz wrote:
ttoz wrote:can SOMONE PLEASE answer my snap to grid queries/posts on deficiencie of samplitude, that actually use i? AM I GOING NUTZ or is there only snap to bar or no snap.
DO NOT BUY SAMPLITUDE IF YOU DO 4/4 DANCE ORIENTED STUFF ESPECIALLY, UNLESS YOU WANT TO GO MAD WITH GRID SNAPPING

Can someone explain me the question? There are a lot of snap options in samplitude, like snap to other object boarders, snap to bars or beats etc. I can't see where should be a problem with 4/4 dance oriented stuff.

Kraznet · Post by **Kraznet** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 3:39 pm

I'm not quite sure what they mean by that .There's the arrange window , midi editor window , wave editor , mixer window . I wouldn't say thats alot of windows compared to other programs.

Kraznet

LBN · Post by **LBN** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 3:53 pm

Kraznet wrote:I'm not quite sure what they mean by that .There's the arrange window , midi editor window , wave editor , mixer window . I wouldn't say thats alot of windows compared to other programs.

True. I use two displays with Cubase and it still never seems like enough. I think it's time for my bi-monthly Tracktion demo download.

"Workflow" is as subjective as musical taste. Most of the time I can get things done 10x faster at a Unix prompt than I can using a GUI. If I were hardcore I'd program all my MIDI data by hand, one decimal number at a time. If I were really hardcore, I'd do it in binary. If I were a true uebermensch I could simply stare at the computer and will the MIDI into it.

I need another cup of coffee.

HanafiH · Post by **HanafiH** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:21 pm

ttoz wrote:
ttoz wrote:can SOMONE PLEASE answer my snap to grid queries/posts on deficiencie of samplitude, that actually use i? AM I GOING NUTZ or is there only snap to bar or no snap.
exactly

i've been talking about this since samp 6 over about 10 threads at this forum over 2 years and no one has EVER answered me. so let me tell YOU.

DO NOT BUY SAMPLITUDE IF YOU DO 4/4 DANCE ORIENTED STUFF ESPECIALLY, UNLESS YOU WANT TO GO MAD WITH GRID SNAPPING

Yo ttoz. I'm not a samp user - yet. But I've been evaluating some version of 7 with a view to buying in when 8 delivers as a way out of Steinberg. It definitely snap to beats, and looks like a whole load of complicated other options.

The sound engine is very, very good as good as Robert Randolph was fond of saying. That's whats got me counting my Euros and thinking. What I'd like to hear from Samp users about is the customer support? Steinberg has all the customer friendliness of a cornered weasel.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:21 pm

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Kraznet · Post by **Kraznet** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:40 pm

I just checked the snapping setup..You open "Snap and grid setup" and put a number in the "partitions" box 1 is 1/4 notes 2 is 1/8th 3 is 1/12th etc..Also if you hold down ALT it disables the snapping and moves the part at the current PPQ setting.But for fine ajustments you need to zoom in .You can also set up key commands for moving parts (objects ) left or right etc.You can set the resolution in the "Obect step setting " box . This is for audio . For midi in the editor there is a drop down list and you can snap anywhere from 1 to 64T. Would be nice to have something like that in the arrange as well. Not sure what V8 will bring to the table.

Kraznet

Jaeson Merrill · Post by **Jaeson Merrill** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:42 pm

yeah samp rocks...

the freezing is unmatched

original flipper · Post by **original flipper** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:55 pm

HI

When I contacted the German support office about the cross-grade I had an answer within a couple of hours - can't do much better than that, the UK distributor was also avalible for phone contact, which took place no problem.

I would say that beats a few companies I can think of!

Flipper.

Kraznet · Post by **Kraznet** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 6:11 pm

I've heard good reports about the support as well . I guess they still have have a quite small user base at the moment . It remains to be seen how it can be sustained it if there is a large take up of V8 by new users .

Kraznet

7XL · Post by **7XL** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 6:42 pm

ttoz,

Did you ever think that there are people out there that don't really care about 4/4 dance music?

There a quite a few professionals that I know that have been using Samplitude for years and they have never complained about it not having "quick menus".

Why do you even bother wasting your time constantly bashing products that don't work the way that you want them to?

Your constant anger and one sided opinions don't serve anybody but yourself.

And seeing as how you are now a Mac user, why not get Garage Band and snap to your little hearts content.

Robert Randolph · Post by **Robert Randolph** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 6:48 pm

7XL wrote: Your constant anger and one sided opinions don't serve anybody but yourself.

And seeing as how you are now a Mac user, why not get Garage Band and snap to your little hearts content.

Not needed!

Ttoz, wait for the v8 demo, it will have better options to serve your needs.

Also the MAGIX support is great. Their american distributor is terrible. But you dont need to worry about that.

Only thing to be aware of in samplitude is the workflow is a bit retarded (slow, not stupid). Lots of menu's to wade through. the shortcut keys help but they can become redundant with 2 functions often serving ALMOST the same purpose but not totally, requiring you to use both in conjunction.

As far as sound, definetly top 3.

Features, they seem tacked on imo. Good variety and decent... It looks like v8 will better the effects which were gross in v7.

I personally think it's overall an awesome program. Workflow got in my way too much for me to enjoy it in a professional, or casual working environment. Awesome for the tweakhead, not good for the kind of guy who knows what he wants right away.

original flipper · Post by **original flipper** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:06 pm

HI

How about a little talk through scenario, what would loading up a softsynth, recording the midi-data followed by editing the data involve?

In Logic for instance from the arrange page you would dbl click on an audio instrument track, load a softie via the mixer insert, go back to arrange and possibly set markers, press record, play your riff or whatever then post record you would go to the piano-roll and get tweaking - would samplitude be that much different?

I appreciate that I skimmed a few intricate moves - but you get the gist, no doubt.

Flipper.

Any Samplitude users, here?