KVR Audio

woodsdenis · Post by **woodsdenis** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:12 pm

bronxsound wrote:this thread has become epic.

Epically silly.

msvs · Post by **msvs** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:22 am

I tested it again and sure, this off-sync issue is a fact, not pilot error.

if there is a bug, you can be sure, it will get adressed. But we have a priority list first, and this is not on #1. Please have some days patience, we will take a look into it for 100%

Logic create only 15 AUX channel

yes, Logic does not allow more than 16 (+1 Master Channel) per plugin
this is a technical restriction from Logic, we cant do anything against that. We also can not tell why Logic does this limitation. As you can see, other DAWs allow more

kanzler · Post by **kanzler** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:45 am

msvs wrote:
I tested it again and sure, this off-sync issue is a fact, not pilot error.
if there is a bug, you can be sure, it will get adressed. But we have a priority list first, and this is not on #1. Please have some days patience, we will take a look into it for 100%

Logic create only 15 AUX channel
yes, Logic does not allow more than 16 (+1 Master Channel) per plugin
this is a technical restriction from Logic, we cant do anything against that. We also can not tell why Logic does this limitation. As you can see, other DAWs allow more

it is not a problem from logic it still have 16 stereo channel output, and after avenger Drums still 5 AUX free available
i think programer can do it , change the start send channel for the kick to channel 9-10 instead of 11-12 only for AU Plugin, other way you can add function to change channels in Avenger, all other Plugins work the same like Kontakt from native instruments, because i don't want to change my daw because of Avenger
1 Master should 1-2
AUX 1 channel 3-4
AUX 2 channel 5-6
AUX 3 channel 7-8
AUX 4 channel 9-10
AUX 5 channel 11-12>>>>>>>>Kick
AUX 6 channel 13-14>>>>>>>>Rimshot
AUX 7 channel 15-16>>>>>>>>Snare1
AUX 8 channel 17-18>>>>>>>>Clap
AUX 9 channel 19-20>>>>>>>> Snare2
AUX 10 channel 21-22 >>>>>>>>Percussion1
AUX 11 channel 23-24 >>>>>>>>close Hihat1
AUX 12 channel 25-26 >>>>>>>>Percussion2
AUX 13 channel 27-28 >>>>>>>>Close Hihat2
AUX 14 channel 29-30 >>>>>>>> Ride
AUX 15 channel 31-32 >>>>>>>> Open Hihat

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:14 pm

Re-synthesizing some vocal samples (my own voice) in Avenger and morphing the sound with various Macros and the modulation wheel. Some CPU overloads occurred during the video recording, it's just all too much for my laptop

- [rant]I want my big Mac Pro ashtray back (but if I'm f**ked it needs a new motherboard and it's only 1.5 years old, great product quality Apple!) [/rant]

Julien Unison · Post by **Julien Unison** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:31 pm

Very good and interesting, as usual !

Julien Unison · Post by **Julien Unison** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:40 pm

Oh, for the record...

I was preparing myself to do a post here about how for me there was no problem at all with Avenger (to counter-balance all the negative posts on this thread)... When suddenly...

BAAAAM !

There is now a Logic project made with 5 or 6 Avenger tracks (only Avenger tracks, nothing else used in this project) that I can't re-open at all...

I will see if it happens again with other project. Very disturbing.

Last version of Logic, last version of Avenger, last version of El Capitan on a MacBook Pro (Retina 15" mid-2015 / 2,8 GHz Intel Core i7 / 16 Go 1600 MHz DDR3 / SSD hard disk).

(no fans overload problem for me)

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:49 pm

inusable wrote:Oh, for the record...

I was preparing myself to do a post here about how for me there was no problem at all with Avenger (to counter-balance all the negative posts on this thread)... When suddenly...

BAAAAM !

There is now a Logic project made with 5 or 6 Avenger tracks (only Avenger tracks, nothing else used in this project) that I can't re-open at all...

I will see if it happens again with other project. Very disturbing.

Last version of Logic, last version of Avenger, last version of El Capitan on a MacBook Pro (Retina 15" mid-2015 / 2,8 GHz Intel Core i7 / 16 Go 1600 MHz DDR3 / SSD hard disk).

(no fans overload problem for me)

I had this happen too, corrupted pLogic projects after Avenger crashes, disable Core Audio, open the project, enable each Avenger one by one to see which one is actually crashing the project. Maybe you can save some presets this way.

Nightpolymath · Post by **Nightpolymath** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 3:13 pm

woodsdenis wrote:The following is not a defence or condemnation of Avenger.

There are always bugs in software, get angry and upset if they are not fixed in a timely manner. Comparing different products is not fair, Falcon is based on a well tested existing format for example. Serum had a number of bugs and CPU issues on release that were very quickly addressed. Look back at threads here and look. Now in saying that, absolutely use this forum to report bugs and inconsistencies, that in informs and also puts pressure on developers to fix things.

Avenger is not severely broken as of now or perfect , give the developer time address all the issues, they can't all be done at once. Personally I think the pluses way out way the minuses. YMMV.

I think it's just a case of a development team biting more than they can chew. Take UHE's testing model - same small development outfit,with a massive public beta to cover all possible combinations of hardware and operating system. If the company is small, properly stress testing software takes a lot of money and effort relatively speaking, much more than several months of closed beta testing if the product is particularly complex. Just saying that there are other approaches to doing this.

Lestonz · Post by **Lestonz** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 3:47 pm

Hi

I tried to creating my own wavetable but normalize button crashed avenger (black gui).
tried to deleting and starting a new instance but the gui stay black.
Only solution i found was to restart my daw...
I'm on FL Studio 12.4 / Windows 10 and i have the last drivers from my nvidia graphic card.

woodsdenis · Post by **woodsdenis** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 3:49 pm

Nightpolymath wrote:
woodsdenis wrote:The following is not a defence or condemnation of Avenger.

There are always bugs in software, get angry and upset if they are not fixed in a timely manner. Comparing different products is not fair, Falcon is based on a well tested existing format for example. Serum had a number of bugs and CPU issues on release that were very quickly addressed. Look back at threads here and look. Now in saying that, absolutely use this forum to report bugs and inconsistencies, that in informs and also puts pressure on developers to fix things.

Avenger is not severely broken as of now or perfect , give the developer time address all the issues, they can't all be done at once. Personally I think the pluses way out way the minuses. YMMV.
I think it's just a case of a development team biting more than they can chew. Take UHE's testing model - same small development outfit,with a massive public beta to cover all possible combinations of hardware and operating system. If the company is small, properly stress testing software takes a lot of money and effort relatively speaking, much more than several months of closed beta testing if the product is particularly complex. Just saying that there are other approaches to doing this.

Yes fair point, I think UHE has bigger team though.

kiezum · Post by **kiezum** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:47 pm

I get the impression that U-He are more interested in giving us better tools to make music. And Vengeance is more interested in our money.

noiseboyuk · Post by **noiseboyuk** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 10:14 pm

kiezum wrote:I get the impression that U-He are more interested in giving us better tools to make music. And Vengeance is more interested in our money.

Even for KVR, this is pretty lowball.

Meanwhile, I finally had a spare couple of hours to actually play with programming the thing, and it was a blast. Love the interface, and loads of sonic goodness. I do need the EDM stuff from time to time, but I was really interested to see how it was with more analogue tones - ended up getting obsessed on creating tons of analogue 16th arps, my favourite thing in the world.

I was hoping I'd gel with Vengeance, and I do think I have. The only other VI that I've gelled with is Omni.

woodsdenis · Post by **woodsdenis** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:36 pm

I am loading new impulses into the Impulse reverb very cool. Manuel it would be great if the LOAD would remember the Folder location. Way down on the list I know but great to have it whenever. What is the restriction or format of the IR impulses ?

Well said Guy in previous post, I called out a dev in another thread for slagging Avenger. This is uncalled for and will only mean that devs don't bother to post here.Think VI control !!!!! Healthy debate yes .

godly · Post by **godly** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:48 pm

kiezum wrote:I get the impression that U-He are more interested in giving us better tools to make music. And Vengeance is more interested in our money.

Oh please! Give them some time, they will deliver and work out the problems. They have a business and reputation to keep up!

Ryan99 · Post by **Ryan99** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 12:05 am

kiezum wrote:I get the impression that U-He are more interested in giving us better tools to make music. And Vengeance is more interested in our money.

That's pretty cheap and uncalled for. Many persons are reporting a stable use of Avenger. They already released a couple of updates in a very short period of time, so I think they want to fix what's not working for some users.

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