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Reggmail · Post by **Reggmail** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 7:41 pm

Hay this looks really good. I'm not writing to be a beta submitter.
I'm just asking you to consider making this rev stand out even more by adding a ( delay ) section.
Most reflections is not as elaborate, so delay is the effect mostly used along with Reverb.
I believe that if its incorporated in one plugin would make
this unit stand out from the rest IMO.

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 7:42 pm

The early reflection section can be abused splendidly to act like a multitap delay.

ZentralmassivSound · Post by **ZentralmassivSound** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 7:44 pm

Loooooooooooooooooooong Reverb:

http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3347 ... bDemo2.mp3

robotmonkey · Post by **robotmonkey** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 7:53 pm

MeldaProduction wrote:I'm going to be bold and say it's by far the most powerful reverb ever made

I'm going to be bold and say it's also by far the most ugliest reverb ever made.

plexuss · Post by **plexuss** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:08 pm

Cinebient wrote:Sounds nice so far....but what i mean with B2 and Aether are the very very large ambient/space/from another world like stuff like 625 meter spaceship halls filled with liquid metal etc. ....
Also i have yet to find such dense and smooth evolving decays to bed me into warm rays.
But of course it's as usual everything a personal flavour.
However, can't wait to test it....once it will be released.

I use the 2c products and they are in the top 5 of my favorite reverbs. I own about 40 reverbs. B2 is amazing and is worth the CPU load for it's incredible sound. however B2 is not mean to sound realistic but rather "other worldly". Aether is a very very nice reverb, one of the best. Hreverb mixes really well, which I like. One of my favourite reverbs is PSP 2445 because it's so "musical" and mixes in well with a variety of sources, although its not very versatile in terms of sound. Pheonixverb is also an excellent reverb, very smooth and silky. I find the Valhalla reverbs to be merely, ok... they are good for the money and good when you are looking for verbs with "character" but not the best for mixing and creating a sense of natural space. I am growing fond of PA bxRooMS too. Second-tier, but also very nice are Reverbical, eaReverb 2. The Fusion IRs in Reverberate 2 are astounding.

Looking forward to the melda reverb although if they feel the Valhalla's are "good" and Aether is "cold", well.. we'll just have to see,

Hanz Meyzer · Post by **Hanz Meyzer** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:14 pm

Hi,

as a suggestion: I would miss an attack parameter for the perfect reverb plugin, which fades in the late tail. To my perception of depth, it seems to be a quite essential parameter (of course in combination with others).

EDIT: Oh there seems to be such a thing. Is it kind of a post compressor? I more mean like a transient shaper.

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:41 pm

Oh, quite a conversation we have here! First, to all people who already applied, I'll get to that tomorrow, so please be patient

. There's quite a few of you already

.

Hanz Mayer: Yes, the compressor can be used that way. Or you can use it as a pre-gate.

plexuss: I never considered myself a reverb expert really. But over the previous few weeks I had to explore the market

, and the more I explored, the more surprised I was how every dev (especially aether/b2) claims how awesome it is, while all I was hearing was metalic mess, low density,... just nothing like IRs (which we kinda want to achieve, algorithmically). BUT valhalla is good (that's a positive btw!

I sensed "good" wasn't enough for you

). But I hate aether. I mean, everything seems to be able to get a decent sound on vocals. But on the loop I used above for the demoes, now that was problem!

Valhalla made it well, aether not listenable on every preset I tried. BUT you may NOT agree with me! After all, what you think of my examples? I'm geuninly interested in your opinion, as I think we may have a very different taste. And let's face it, nobody becomes a master of ears after just few weeks of constant listening to reverbs. After all, reverbs are vvveeeeryyy deceiving...
Edit: I'll also check the reverbs you mentioned, never heard of them, could be worth checking.
Edit2

: Exactly the sense of space seemed to be a problem with most reverbs I tried (besides the metallic resonances). That's where valhalla seemed cool, a little artificially wide though. IRs are IRs. But when I made the Cathedral preset I was actually trying to make it sound like the real deal from IRs and now I like it more

.

Nielzie: Thank you! I don't know if there's some snare reverb really

, it's just some loop I got from some collection many many years ago and I use it on all kinds of testing, because I just know every millisecond of every frequency there

operator: Yes! Indeed that is possible!

I was surprised too

zappsunzorn · Post by **zappsunzorn** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:47 pm

Odd it does not seem to download with the latest public pre, it is not on the list when I install.

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:48 pm

zappsunzorn wrote:Odd it does not seem to download with the latest public pre, it is not on the list when I install.

Check the first post

. It's NOT public! On demand only

Cinebient · Post by **Cinebient** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:53 pm

B2 metallic and not dense.....sorry, disqualified

But really, i see it exact the other way.
Especially with 100% wet it get the crown.
I find the Valhalla's O.K. but not too good.
IR's reverbs are great too but i never liked them (beside Space Designer).

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:59 pm

Hehe

Try aether/b2 and some cathedral preset on the loop I used, brrr... nothing to do with a cathedral, not even any real space

. I actually remember I liked it a few years ago, and now... everything changed

But I understand why you don't like valhalla, it has a specific "character". IRs are rather complicated, some of them are great, others are crap, and mainly the truth is, something may not exactly sound like a real space and still be great. Consider plates - they have nothing to do with real spaces, but we still use them

Cinebient · Post by **Cinebient** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:10 pm

MeldaProduction wrote:Hehe Try aether/b2 and some cathedral preset on the loop I used, brrr... nothing to do with a cathedral, not even any real space . I actually remember I liked it a few years ago, and now... everything changed
But I understand why you don't like valhalla, it has a specific "character". IRs are rather complicated, some of them are great, others are crap, and mainly the truth is, something may not exactly sound like a real space and still be great. Consider plates - they have nothing to do with real spaces, but we still use them

Maybe...but i don't want real spaces because anyway nothing comes close.
Beeing myself often in very large buildings, halls there is nothing in software still which gives you that sense

jens · Post by **jens** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:24 pm

MeldaProduction wrote:
jens wrote:
MeldaProduction wrote: I actually thought about algorithmic engine, that would literally simulate an IR, but it seems impossible, or you'd need some approximation approach, which would probably require CPU power of the entire world
And yet - as far as I understood it - that's exactly what Waves' H-Reverb does.
Not at all . Like they said on H Reverb website - it's based on FIR, so it's just another convolution plugin

No, it isn't - I guess you misunderstood - the IR is synthesized, that's why it can't load IRs.

plexuss · Post by **plexuss** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:29 pm

... and then there is Adaptiverb (Zynaptiq) which no one can touch.

elassi · Post by **elassi** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:38 pm

MirkoVanHauten wrote:The one who wrote this manual should get punished...

Why not try yourself? I'm 100% sure that Vojtech will reward you or any other person for pulling out a suitable manual layout.

Hint: there are plenty of free InDesign-templates waiting for you.

MTurboReverb preset making action, let's make the ultimate reverb! ;)