KVR Audio

MogwaiBoy · Post by **MogwaiBoy** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:46 pm

This is currently $19. I plan to demo it but wondering if there are any Team KVR opinions on it? What does it compare to?

exmatproton · Post by **exmatproton** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:03 pm

MogwaiBoy wrote:This is currently $19. I plan to demo it but wondering if there are any Team KVR opinions on it? What does it compare to?

Charlatan 2 with some extra options. I like it. And for that money it is a real fun little synth. Stable, smooth, a nice and simple "modmatrix" and i really like the filter->drive/shaper->filter2 routing.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:04 pm

Wow, all I can say, that is a no-brainer

I got it at KVR charity auction a couple of years back, probably paid $50 for it.

The plug has kind of went off the radar of most users these days.

Hopefully such a sale can reignite some interest in it, and also for the dev to develop it further.

Best comparison, I would say something like Steinberg Retrologue.

exmatproton · Post by **exmatproton** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:12 pm

just printed this work in progress-thingy:

*disclaimer: only kHs ONE. Some FX is used (reverb) + some limiting.

https://soundcloud.com/exmatproton/khs- ... -1/s-K96ya

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:27 pm

exmatproton wrote:
Charlatan 2 with some extra options.

exactly what i was thinking, with the addition of a second filter, a formant filter mode, a sub osc, a waveshaper, built in chorus/delay, a patch browser and way many more modulations. at $19 it is tempting. (have to ask myself if i really need those extras)

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:27 pm

Just downloaded the trial. Very weird installer, wants to install everything available for free from kilohearts with the synth, so, you have to make sure that all that stuff is deactivated when you install the synth. And when you want to uninstall the trial, you need to run the installer again, ugh. The sound didn't really impress me, neither did the feature set. As you mentioned Charlatan, i think that one sounds way better. Anyway, i guess for $19, this is ok. I wouldn't really pay more than that for it though.

exmatproton · Post by **exmatproton** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:33 pm

chk071 wrote:Just downloaded the trial. Very weird installer, wants to install everything available for free from kilohearts with the synth, so, you have to make sure that all that stuff is deactivated when you install the synth. And when you want to uninstall the trial, you need to run the installer again, ugh. The sound didn't really impress me, neither did the feature set. As you mentioned Charlatan, i think that one sounds way better. Anyway, i guess for $19, this is ok. I wouldn't really pay more than that for it though.

I wouldn't pay €20,- for Charlatan. The filter/shaping section is great and lots more mod possibilities in ONE. Also, i find the "always-on"-wobbling (fake analog pitchshifting) in Charlatan very annoying.

Now, i wouldn't pay the full price for ONE either...around €100,-?? no way

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:37 pm

My biggest gripe with Charlatan is the feature set. I really wished it had a bit more capabilities. Sound wise, especially when using the unison, it gives many payware synths a run for their money, IMO. Sort of the same problem as with TAL-Noisemaker. Both really good synths, but, unfortunately, very limited...

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:43 pm

chk071 wrote:My biggest gripe with Charlatan is the feature set. I really wished it had a bit more capabilities. Sound wise, especially when using the unison, it gives many payware synths a run for their money.

agree. back when it was in developement i'd beg for a sub osc, more waveforms (sin) and a mod matrix. but i guess thats pushing it pretty hard for a freebie. Ah well, still gets alot of bass work from me.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:08 am

How can anybody compare Charlatan to One with so many additions?

layzer wrote:with the addition of

a second filter,
a formant filter mode,
a sub osc,
a waveshaper,
built in chorus/delay,
a patch browser
and way many more modulations.

at $19 it is tempting.

(have to ask myself if i really need those extras)

Indeed you should have a sit down with yourself to examine that.

exmatproton · Post by **exmatproton** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:31 am

Numanoid wrote:How can anybody compare Charlatan to One with so many additions?
layzer wrote:with the addition of

a second filter,
a formant filter mode,
a sub osc,
a waveshaper,
built in chorus/delay,
a patch browser
and way many more modulations.

at $19 it is tempting.

(have to ask myself if i really need those extras)
Indeed you should have a sit down with yourself to examine that.

I guess the workflow in some sense? I dunno really.......Charlatan was the first synth that popped into my head. But indeed, with a lot of extra's

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:44 am

Bought KHS One...made a few patches...got bored with it...sold it....

It sounds nice but I don't think I'll buy it again not even for $19.

Fleer · Post by **Fleer** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:16 am

Bought the RE version. Same price.

Deisss · Post by **Deisss** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:04 am

Teksonik wrote:Bought KHS One...made a few patches...got bored with it...sold it....

It sounds nice but I don't think I'll buy it again not even for $19.

Got the same feeling, it never "feet" for me anywhere...
So I stop using it after few weeks only.

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:24 am

Numanoid wrote:How can anybody compare Charlatan to One with so many additions?

Indeed you should have a sit down with yourself to examine that.

well, i can only compare it to charlatan for bass sounds as that is what i use charlatan exclusively for.

then after sitting down with myself i wondered about other sounds.... and i decided
i already have Arcsyn that i got for free, to do similar sounds KHS ONE does.

Kilohearts - kHs One?