KVR Audio

Zexila · Post by **Zexila** » Sat Dec 17, 2016 4:10 pm

chk071 wrote:P.S.: You can get a legal Windows 7 key for as little as 20 € online (because, really, Windows XP sucks, and no software developer will still support it). Just make sure you don't buy it from some untrustable site, there are sites which sell developer keys, which could get voided by Microsoft, if you're unlucky.

Well, think that goes against EULA, saw plenty of guys selling DreamSpark keys and they can't legally do that or you can legally buy them and use them, at least judging by EULA, Windows 7 is only OEM you can't buy for yourself to build custom PC, Vista you can and 8 you can, but not 7, on 7 they pulled a no no.

.jon wrote: Windows 7 seems to be 29.99e, if you're into vintage computing.

See above, he would need to buy retail 10 to update his old machine or buy OEM if he plans to build new one, that's the thing, I know it's easy to say things like "just update". but it's not that simple or cheap in reality, it's not OS X in majority of cases these days, where you click and make a coffee.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sat Dec 17, 2016 4:14 pm

Zexila wrote:
chk071 wrote:P.S.: You can get a legal Windows 7 key for as little as 20 € online (because, really, Windows XP sucks, and no software developer will still support it). Just make sure you don't buy it from some untrustable site, there are sites which sell developer keys, which could get voided by Microsoft, if you're unlucky.
Well, think that goes against EULA, saw plenty of guys selling DreamSpark keys and they can't legally do that or you can legally buy them and use them, at least judging by EULA, Windows 7 is only OEM you can't buy for yourself to build custom PC, Vista you can and 8 you can, but not 7, on 7 they pulled a no no.

It may vary depending on where you're living, but, here, a court ruled that they have to make the keys re-sellable, even, hold on to your hat, keys from volume licenses. I don't understand that decision either, but, in general, more and more is ruled to the advantage of the customer, and the companies have to comply to that, whether they want or not.

Zexila · Post by **Zexila** » Sat Dec 17, 2016 4:18 pm

chk071 wrote:
Zexila wrote:
chk071 wrote:P.S.: You can get a legal Windows 7 key for as little as 20 € online (because, really, Windows XP sucks, and no software developer will still support it). Just make sure you don't buy it from some untrustable site, there are sites which sell developer keys, which could get voided by Microsoft, if you're unlucky.
Well, think that goes against EULA, saw plenty of guys selling DreamSpark keys and they can't legally do that or you can legally buy them and use them, at least judging by EULA, Windows 7 is only OEM you can't buy for yourself to build custom PC, Vista you can and 8 you can, but not 7, on 7 they pulled a no no.
It may vary depending on where you're living, but, here, a court ruled that they have to make the keys re-sellable, even, hold on to your hat, keys from volume licenses. I don't understand that decision either, but, in general, more and more is ruled to the advantage of the customer, and the companies have to comply to that, whether they want or not.

Okay, that's good news than, gonna check how that applies here.

sjm · Post by **sjm** » Sat Dec 17, 2016 4:34 pm

You haven't explained why you want to swap FL for something that is essentially the same.

In other words, it'll be hard to recommend anything. But if you like the FL workflow, stick with FL.

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Sat Dec 17, 2016 4:37 pm

Renoise or even better for your needs is Modplug.

shapero · Post by **shapero** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:04 am

Thanks all,

I have to change from FL Studio because there are some problems with it (for me)

I think I will try more Ableton to see if I can get it flowing for me, next (if i will buy win10) is cubase and bitwig

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FL Studio alternative?