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recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:21 pm

I have it already. So yeah, untill I learn how to make sounds with this one, no Bazille for me

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:25 pm

I think there may just be a misunderstanding about just how misunderstood Bazille really is.

Out of my 34 libraries, Bazille is my 8th best selling one.

Yeah, that's one real misunderstood synth.

fluffy_little_something · Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:44 pm

I remember the demo, it consumed a looot of CPU, was not very intuitive to put it mildly, and the GUI was also a bit gloomy and hard to use. Its sound was on the digital side if I remember correctly.

With such synths I am always a bit afraid of hooking up the wrong controls, blowing my speakers and/or eardrums

H-man · Post by **H-man** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:50 pm

Urs wrote:
fmr wrote: I am seeing several Zebras in the market too, lately
They'll bite their own ass soon enough

Oh I love it when you talk dirty Urs.

Bodhisan · Post by **Bodhisan** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:28 pm

wagtunes wrote:I think there may just be a misunderstanding about just how misunderstood Bazille really is.

Out of my 34 libraries, Bazille is my 8th best selling one.

Yeah, that's one real misunderstood synth.

But Wags...people buy patches because they don't build their own. Your customers are musicians who don't understand synths - or in the very least, they know how to fiddle with the cutoff and an lfo.

Bodhisan · Post by **Bodhisan** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:30 pm

chk071 wrote:
recursive one wrote:
fmr wrote: I am seeing several Zebras in the market too, lately
I'll probably put mine there as well too.

Or maybe I'll try to exchange it for Bazille, I really like the sound of this thing but I have to admit I'm still pretty much clueless about how to program my own patches in it.
If you need an appetizer, get Beatzille, or Bazille CM for starters.

If you can't make Zebra shine...good luck with Bazille.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:30 pm

Bodhisan wrote:
wagtunes wrote:I think there may just be a misunderstanding about just how misunderstood Bazille really is.

Out of my 34 libraries, Bazille is my 8th best selling one.

Yeah, that's one real misunderstood synth.
But Wags...people buy patches because they don't build their own. Your customers are musicians who don't understand synths - or in the very least, they know how to fiddle with the cutoff and an lfo.

Except why would those people buy something like Bazille anyway? If they're musicians, wouldn't they buy something more middle of the road or "commercial" like a sylenth1 or a Spire or whatever the synth du jour is that you open up and just make music with? Bazille is the last synth a musician would buy if that's the case. I mean have you heard some of the patches that come with it? Why would a musician want any of that?

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:32 pm

You have a weird idea of what a musician is if you think that

Bodhisan · Post by **Bodhisan** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:35 pm

justin3am wrote:Bazille is practically the only soft-synth I use, these days. It can do cold and sterile or warm and unstable. It can do bat-shit-insane like no other synth I've encountered. It's the kind of synth I prefer to approach from an init patch, every time I use it. It's just such a joy to build sounds with. There are so many ways to shape a sound with performance controls, it's a synth that begs to be played with a MIDI controller (though I'm not much of a keyboard player myself).

And this is it. Once understood, beginning with init every time can land you with a different sound with every effort in just a few minutes. Just astounding. From lush pads to pure ugliness.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:36 pm

aMUSEd wrote:You have a weird idea of what a musician is if you think that

Okay, well then you tell me what a musician is. I'd love to hear this.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:38 pm

Know what? Forget about what a musician is or isn't. The OP claims Bazille is misunderstood. I'm saying how misunderstood can it be when it's one of my best selling libraries? I mean who is NOT buying this synth that makes it so misunderstood?

fluffy_little_something · Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:40 pm

I think there is a certain percentage (maybe 10-20 %) of keyboard players who are very much into exploring new stuff, Stevie Wonder for instance was know for doing that.
But I don't think that the vast majority need something like Bazille or other modular synths. It also depends on the genre, of course. EDM people are much more likely to make extreme use of synths than rock or Jazz musicians.

Cinebient · Post by **Cinebient** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:42 pm

Urs wrote:
fmr wrote: I am seeing several Zebras in the market too, lately
They'll bite their own ass soon enough

"...soon...."
We will see

fluffy_little_something · Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:43 pm

wagtunes wrote:Know what? Forget about what a musician is or isn't. The OP claims Bazille is misunderstood. I'm saying how misunderstood can it be when it's one of my best selling libraries? I mean who is NOT buying this synth that makes it so misunderstood?

I suppose it is one of the synths you are selling more libraries for BECAUSE people don't understand Bazille, but might like its sound they know from audio examples. Or they know the factory presets and want more such presets without knowing how to make them.

Saukar30 · Post by **Saukar30** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:45 pm

Wags... sometimes musicians just want weird stuff. If you have a Sylenth or Spire... most of those sounds usually tend to sound the same. By getting Bazille, you know that you will have something bizzare. We search for that bizarre shit even if we don't understand how it comes to be. Sometimes understanding just takes the fun out of the journey.

Bazille - most misunderstood synth?