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zethus909 · Post by **zethus909** » Tue Oct 25, 2016 5:07 am

I like this guy's music. I heard it today, not sure which song it was, but i had never heard it before, and it's not one of the ones that is popular. it was on a french station and i couldnt make out what the title was actually i just decided to dig and i found the setlist this was the tune
itre: CONCERTO NO 1, OP 15
Album: BRAHMS: PIANO CONCERTO NO 1/BALLADES OP 10
Interprète(s): PAUL LEWIS, ORCH SYMPH DE LA RADIO SUEDOISE, DANIEL HARDING
Compositeur(s): JOHANNES BRAHMS

wow, this is an amazing song, incredible. this is what classical should be. thoughts?

lolilol1975 · Post by **lolilol1975** » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:21 pm

Yeah, this concerto is an absolute masterpiece. He started writing it when he was 21 and finished 4 years later. Unfortunately, it was very badly received when he played it at the première in 1859.

Kalamata Kid · Post by **Kalamata Kid** » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:41 pm

Beautiful!!!

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:05 am

I don't know what you mean when you say "it's not one of the ones that is popular". Brahms is one of the biggest names in the History of Music, and his concertos are af course all masterpieces, as are his symphonies (perhaps his best known works). If you say that his piano concertos are not as popular as the ones of Beethoven, Mozart (some), Tchaikovsky, Chopin or Rachmaninoff, yes, maybe you're right, but they are certainly played really often and among the obligatory repertoire of many concert pianists.

A great work indeed. Fortunately, he also wrote another that is as good, and also other pieces (the symphonies are all deserving a listen, IMO, as weall as the violin concerto and the double concerto). And there are several other composers that wrote equally deserving and amazing concertos. The piano has a really rich repertoire, especially in this period.

BTW: This is what classical music IS.

herodotus · Post by **herodotus** » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:55 pm

Because I am a pedantic bastard, I feel a need to point out that Brahms is solidly in the middle of the Romantic era of music, not the Classical era, which is usually accepted to have concluded with the death of Beethoven.

Yes I know, I am fighting against common usage, and could be accused of tilting at windmills, but sometimes I can't help myself.

Kalamata Kid · Post by **Kalamata Kid** » Sat Dec 24, 2016 6:08 pm

I always thought that Beethoven was Romantic.
oh well! Yes I was wrong once before.

see this chart mid page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_music

mfbradt · Post by **mfbradt** » Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:01 pm

Listen to the third movement Andante of Brahms' Piano Concerto #2 if you've never heard it before. It starts with a cello solo that defines sublimity in music. Pure genius! Try to figure out where the one is.

Nightpolymath · Post by **Nightpolymath** » Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:22 pm

Kalamata Kid wrote:I always thought that Beethoven was Romantic.
oh well! Yes I was wrong once before.

see this chart mid page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_music

I would like to think that the Romantic period started with Beethoven's Eroica. Brahms was like a reluctant Romantic who fashioned his Symphony #1 as a logical continuation of Beethoven's 9th.

Kalamata Kid · Post by **Kalamata Kid** » Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:42 pm

Nightpolymath wrote:
Kalamata Kid wrote:I always thought that Beethoven was Romantic.
oh well! Yes I was wrong once before.

see this chart mid page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_music
I would like to think that the Romantic period started with Beethoven's Eroica. Brahms was like a reluctant Romantic who fashioned his Symphony #1 as a logical continuation of Beethoven's 9th.

Have been ignoring Brahms but now I will have to check out his symphonies.
Thanks to the above posts.

Romantic is my favorite music.
Beethoven's in order of preference. 7, 3, 6, 5, 8, 9
Would be great if there is a Romantic revival!

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Sun Dec 25, 2016 6:52 pm

Kalamata Kid wrote: Romantic is my favorite music.
Beethoven's in order of preference. 7, 3, 6, 5, 8, 9
Would be great if there is a Romantic revival!

There is a time for everything, I guess, but the late romantics entered firmly into the XXth century. Rachmaninoff was firmly in that style, as was Scriabine.

Mahler was also a romantic, as was Hugo Wolf and Max Reger, or Richard Strauss, Camille Saint Saens, Cesar Franck, Edvard Grieg, Jean Sibelius and Carl Nielsen. More tied to their country music but still firmly in the romantic period and style, we have Antonin Dvorak and Bedrich Smetana, as well as the famous "Group of Five" russians (Milij Balakirev, Modest Mussorgssky, Alexander Borodin, Cesar Cui and Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov). Also, the american Samuel Barber has several pieces written in that style (late romantism). His famous Adagio is firmly in the vein of Gustav Mahler.

Although Shostakovitch has a completely different style, some of his symphonies and concertos owe a little to the more classical romantics, like Brahms.

Back to Brahms. He allied the romantic chromaticism and intense use of harmony and dissonances to the classical use of the form, firmly inspired in Beethoven. In that sense, he was a classical romantic, as opposed to the opponents of the classical forms and adepts of more freedom in music, like the Wagnerians. There was even a big dispute between the two factions (Wagnerians against Brahmsians).

All schools have their own merits, of course.

Johannes Brahms CONCERTO NO 1, OP 15