KVR Audio

poonna · Post by **poonna** » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:24 pm

Not sure if this thread belongs here, but I want to create my own tutorial videos for music software, like those in Groove3 or AskVideo/MacProVideo. I don't know where to start though. So I hope someone could probably guide me here.

I believe I'll need the followings:

- A screen capture software
- Something to edit and compose screen captured takes with camera captured scenes, adding transitions, texts, etc.
- Some software that allows me to record animated hand drawing (like in Khan Academy) to illustrate some concepts
- Noise reduction tools

I heard names like OBS Studio or CamStudio. Haven't tried the latter, and still can't get my head around the former. What else are out there? Which one are those tutorials created with?

There are also a problem with recording the sound from plugins or software that are being taught. Do I capture directly from ASIO output? Or, do I run a DAW and record all the narration and software output along with it? How do they do it when they teach how to use a DAW? How do they record sound from the DAW?

Can anyone help me get started? Thanks in advance!

poonna · Post by **poonna** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:28 pm

Anyone?

I figure I can probably find most info from Google. But there's one problem that I don't know how best to handle yet. How can I do tutorial of a plugin and recording the DAW output at the same time? The DAW output is ASIO, and I don't know how to intercept that and feed it to the video/screen recording software. I see a few members here make such videos, so can you please give me some advice?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:35 pm

If you have a moderately current Nvidia graphics card, you won't need a screen capturing program, as the Geforce Experience service application can screen capture itself, it's called "Shadowplay" and really works great (and hardly taxes your system ressources). About capturing the sound, that's a problem of course. There was a thread here about that, which explained some methods to do it, there are a few. I'll see if i can find it later.

poonna · Post by **poonna** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 5:59 pm

Thanks for the pointers! Now I found O Deus Wdm2Vst which can be inserted in the master bus and allows recording the output directly into any screencast recording software. This should be the ticket!

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 6:04 pm

Nice, i'll keep that in mind in case i want to record stuff too.

ere2learn · Post by **ere2learn** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:10 pm

I use Active Presenter to edit & capture video

https://atomisystems.com/

Voicemeeter to capture audio that I import into Active Presenter for editing

http://vb-audio.pagesperso-orange.fr/Vo ... /index.htm

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:19 pm

I use Camtadia Studio which has absolutely everything you need and is not too expensive, they have a full demo so give it a try, it has video, sound and voice over capture and the editor is DAW like and has wipes/fx etc but is very easy to use. It has great export as well, including embedded player that can do interactive quiz, menu etc.

poonna · Post by **poonna** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:27 pm

I'm checking out Active Presenter and Camtasia Studio now. Camtasia is really full-featured, but a bit pricey for me. But the biggest problem I have is this:

Both applications allow only two audio sources, one of them being fixed to the system sound. I still can't figure out how to record both the mic and the DAW at the same time. I tried O Deus Wdm2Vst, which allows me to route DAW output to WDM for recording. Now the problem is that, if I choose Wdm2Vst as one of the two audio sources in Active Presenter or Camtasia (to record the DAW output), the remaining audio source is the system sound. I have no way to select the mic input from my audio interface and the DAW output simultaneously.

Another thing with Camtasia is that, it seems both audio sources are mixed into a single stereo track. Is there a way to record them separately?

These are two things that I still can't figure out. Do I really need to record voice in another app and import/time-sync with the video later? Any suggestions?

ere2learn · Post by **ere2learn** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:39 pm

Active Presenter is free & Voicemeeter is donation ware

Most(all?) video capture software doesn't record ASIO,thats why i use Voicemeeter it acts like a main mixer for your computer,so you run a daw,mic & other software into it,took me a little while to configure it for my setup

poonna · Post by **poonna** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:43 pm

ere2learn wrote:Active Presenter is free & Voicemeeter is donation ware

Most(all?) video capture software doesn't record ASIO,thats why i use Voicemeeter it acts like a main mixer for your computer,so you run a daw,mic & other software into it,took me a little while to configure it for my setup

I'm checking out Voicemeeter now. Still can't figure out how to separate DAW and mic tracks though. If I feed both into Voicemeeter, then I'll only get a single stereo mix as the output, right?

ere2learn · Post by **ere2learn** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:48 pm

Not too sure about that

Kraznet · Post by **Kraznet** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:52 pm

Bandicam is the only Screen Capturing software I've found that lets you record 2 separate audio streams and unpack them to discreet tracks. You can choose different inputs from you audio interface. RME is a good for this as you can use loopback with the Totalmix software. Bandicam also includes webcam capture. I do my editing in Magix Video Pro X.

http://www.bandicam.com

Regards
Kraznet

poonna · Post by **poonna** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:41 pm

Kraznet wrote:Bandicam is the only Screen Capturing software I've found that lets you record 2 separate audio streams and unpack them to discreet tracks. You can choose different inputs from you audio interface. RME is a good for this as you can use loopback with the Totalmix software. Bandicam also includes webcam capture. I do my editing in Magix Video Pro X.

Thanks! This one seems to work for my use case, especially in conjunction with O Deus Wdm2Vst for DAW output.

Just to be sure, I have to check "Save audio tracks while recording (.wav)" in order to record 2 separate audio streams, right?

Kraznet · Post by **Kraznet** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:44 pm

Just to be sure, I have to check "Save audio tracks while recording (.wav)" in order to record 2 separate audio streams, right?

I don't use that option. I find that when importing into Video Pro X I just right click on the wave and there's an option to "extract audio tracks" and the 2 waves files are put on separate tracks. But YMMV in that respect. I'm been recording on my i7 laptop using the H264 Intel Quick Sync video setting.

poonna · Post by **poonna** » Thu Dec 29, 2016 6:48 am

Thanks for all the suggestions here. I've got a lot of pointers for further research. Here's what I found so far to be a low-cost solution:

- Use O Deus Wdm2Vst for routing DAW audio for recording (cost about 20 bucks or something)
- Use OBS Studio for screen capture -- this one allows recording a number of audio sources simultaneously (free)
- Use Audacity and FFMpeg plugins for audio extraction (from the videos) and cleaning (free)
- Use HitFilm Express to import and edit the videos (free)

The process seems a bit convoluted though. I would love to have a one-stop solution, but couldn't find one so far, especially not at a low budget range. More suggestions are very welcome!

Which software for tutorial video production?