Need opinion for new PLugins

[U-o]

Those are some bizarre buying decisions, but fine.

please can you explain why ???

I think you wasted your money personally. I would have bought Massive for the type of genre you wanted to make, and learned it inside out, then maybe buy some preset packs for Massive to get you started, then buy Serum at a later date for better quality sounds.

Harmor is pretty good and decent, but has a huge learning curve and hardly any presets. The other stuff, you just don't need.

You're right. Personally; I own Harmless, because it was released before Harmor and it was on sale for only 9$ (or more). I love it because its simplicity and good sound, but you can create all these sounds in Harmor too (+ lot of more). Indeed, Harmor is little bit hard to learn to work with, but powerful plugin. Sytrus? It comes with FL Producer Edition. Sounds good for "free", but my personal favs are Hive (you can buy it here cheap) or Massive.

[exmatproton]

Those are some bizarre buying decisions, but fine.

please can you explain why ???

I think you wasted your money personally. I would have bought Massive for the type of genre you wanted to make, and learned it inside out, then maybe buy some preset packs for Massive to get you started, then buy Serum at a later date for better quality sounds.

Harmor is pretty good and decent, but has a huge learning curve and hardly any presets. The other stuff, you just don't need.

You're right. Personally; I own Harmless, because it was released before Harmor and it was on sale for only 9$ (or more). I love it because its simplicity and good sound, but you can create all these sounds in Harmor too (+ lot of more). Indeed, Harmor is little bit hard to learn to work with, but powerful plugin. Sytrus? It comes with FL Producer Edition. Sounds good for "free", but my personal favs are Hive (you can buy it here cheap) or Massive.

Harmor and Sytrus are both massive synths. However, i don't think it is a good starting point at all. For dubstep, i guess Serum, Rapid and Massive are the obvious choices, if you just started making music.

[egbert101]

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[EnGee]

Those are some bizarre buying decisions, but fine.

please can you explain why ???

I think you wasted your money personally. I would have bought Massive for the type of genre you wanted to make, and learned it inside out, then maybe buy some preset packs for Massive to get you started, then buy Serum at a later date for better quality sounds.

Harmor is pretty good and decent, but has a huge learning curve and hardly any presets. The other stuff, you just don't need.

I want to get deep into the sound.Massive is good but it dosent have those features that i want and all my pc slaves are having amd fx cpu those have weak single core perfomance and serum is bound to be single thread heavy so it is damm heavy on my cpu

If the cpu is an issue, why did you buy Harmor and Diversion?? Those two are quite heavy...

Harmor is not a cpu hog unless you use the highest quality in the options. The (Average) quality is more than good IMO in both sound quality and cpu usage, but I agree, Diversion it is even with just 2x oversampling.

Anyway, the synths are not what I see the problem or the waste, but MtotalBundle is! it is € 750 with the 50% discount. I would have bought Komplete 11 (standard) for $ 599 (no discount!) instead and saved even for Sylenth1 or Dune2!
https://www.native-instruments.com/en/p ... -products/

[exmatproton]

Harmor is not a cpu hog unless you use the highest quality in the options. The (Average) quality is more than good IMO in both sound quality and cpu usage, but I agree, Diversion it is even with just 2x oversampling.

Anyway, the synths are not what I see the problem or the waste, but MtotalBundle is! it is € 750 with the 50% discount. I would have bought Komplete 11 (standard) for $ 599 (no discount!) instead and saved even for Sylenth1 or Dune2!
https://www.native-instruments.com/en/p ... -products/

I am using Harmor at the highest quality. It deserves that
But indeed, on lower settings, it is quite ok.

And i agree with you (see my first post in thread). Komplete 11 would be the smart choice in his (hers) case.

[egbert101]

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[Apratim]

I don't mean to rub more salt in the wound, but I bought MCreativeBundle (and MFreeEffectsBundle) when they had discounts, and I never use them. There are two effects that I found exceptional in those though: MVintageRotary (best rotary emulation effect I've heard), MMultibandSaturator which is the best quality saturation effect I've come across. Still, those can be bought together for 50 Euros.

A much better multipack of effects would be to go for Waves Gold Bundle, currently on sale for $199, or their Platinum Bundle currently on sale for $499. Then maybe wait for Plug & Mix VIP Bundle to go on sale, (it's currently at $249) for your various simple but creative effects.

Even so, those are high quality stuff for studios and not needed if you're a hobbyist, when your DAW does all you need anyway.

http://www.waves.com/bundles/gold
http://www.waves.com/bundles/platinum
http://www.plugandmix.com/products/b888-VIP-Bundle/

thanks for the care man and dont worry i am also thinking of changing form Mtotal to Mcraeative
till now i have bought my mpowresynth license only

[EnGee]

I don't mean to rub more salt in the wound, but I bought MCreativeBundle (and MFreeEffectsBundle) when they had discounts, and I never use them. There are two effects that I found exceptional in those though: MVintageRotary (best rotary emulation effect I've heard), MMultibandSaturator which is the best quality saturation effect I've come across. Still, those can be bought together for 50 Euros.

A much better multipack of effects would be to go for Waves Gold Bundle, currently on sale for $199, or their Platinum Bundle currently on sale for $499. Then maybe wait for Plug & Mix VIP Bundle to go on sale, (it's currently at $249) for your various simple but creative effects.

Even so, those are high quality stuff for studios and not needed if you're a hobbyist, when your DAW does all you need anyway.

http://www.waves.com/bundles/gold
http://www.waves.com/bundles/platinum
http://www.plugandmix.com/products/b888-VIP-Bundle/

thanks for the care man and dont worry i am also thinking of changing form Mtotal to Mcraeative
till now i have bought my mpowresynth license only

Oh! That's good! I suggest also TrackEssentials for 19 euro. I bought it when it was 24 euro (as I remember) and it is the best euros I spent in my life!

I suggest to take it easy with effects bundles. Anyway, you didn't say what DAW are you using and what drums library or synth?! Anyway, Komplete 11 can cover most of everything you think of. Reaktor has tons of free ensembles (synths and effects ...etc). In fact, only Reaktor will spin your head from choices!

Anyway, I suggest an easy synth for bread and butter sounds, like Sylenth1 or/and Dune 2 (they are both in discount now I guess). Both, sound great and relatively easy to design your sounds. Put that with the Native Instruments trio synths (FM8, Massive and Absynth) and you have endless dubstep possibilities

[Jorgeelalto]

Those are some bizarre buying decisions, but fine.

please can you explain why ???

I think you wasted your money personally. I would have bought Massive for the type of genre you wanted to make, and learned it inside out, then maybe buy some preset packs for Massive to get you started, then buy Serum at a later date for better quality sounds.

Harmor is pretty good and decent, but has a huge learning curve and hardly any presets. The other stuff, you just don't need.

You're right. Personally; I own Harmless, because it was released before Harmor and it was on sale for only 9$ (or more). I love it because its simplicity and good sound, but you can create all these sounds in Harmor too (+ lot of more). Indeed, Harmor is little bit hard to learn to work with, but powerful plugin. Sytrus? It comes with FL Producer Edition. Sounds good for "free", but my personal favs are Hive (you can buy it here cheap) or Massive.

Wait, Harmless for 9$? What's that?

[U-o]

Wait, Harmless for 9$? What's that?

Indeed.

[Paree]

I'd Still go with komplete. Covers everything you need. Handful of synths (of every type), Huge sample Libraries, Some good effects.
The fact that there are zillions of free Reaktor and Kontakt instruments and reaktor fxs available makes it a no brainer. But melda's are great as well. But they are just effects whereas komplete is Complete.
Even i make dubstep. Although i'm doing just fine with all the freewares available, i'm saving up some money to buy something big.

With complete, you'll get Massive and FM8, two awesome dubstep Instruments. Razor can also be good for dubstep. There are plenty of Dubstep synths available for Reaktor as well. (Lazerbass and Radian Sound Lab's). So if i were you, Komplete would have been my go to choice.

[chk071]

Komplete may cover everything. The question is if the OP really NEEDS that everything. For me, Komplete would be complete overkill, especially as it comes at a price of 600 €. I do think that you should make up your mind first, and see what you're after, and what will be able to deliver. So, my suggestion would be to stick to freeware, or plugins which are present in the DAW for now, learn synthesis, learn what effects do, maybe learn mixing and mastering, and then see what options are available as payware. Otherwise you'd have to burn a lot of money for stuff you potentially don't even need, or use. I can only speak for myself, but, Komplete rather looks like something to me for people, who really know what they want. Same with Reaper though. A DAW which is easier, and comes with more content, to get you started, without having to learn everything from the ground up immediately, seems more suited for a beginner to me.

[tehlord]

seems like massive cant import custom samples

Good

It means you can get on with making music instead of masturbating over a spec sheet and fvcking about with your sample library all day.

[Robmobius]

Komplete is pretty much everything you need.

[Paree]

Komplete may cover everything. The question is if the OP really NEEDS that everything. For me, Komplete would be complete overkill, especially as it comes at a price of 600 €. I do think that you should make up your mind first, and see what you're after, and what will be able to deliver. So, my suggestion would be to stick to freeware, or plugins which are present in the DAW for now, learn synthesis, learn what effects do, maybe learn mixing and mastering, and then see what options are available as payware. Otherwise you'd have to burn a lot of money for stuff you potentially don't even need, or use. I can only speak for myself, but, Komplete rather looks like something to me for people, who really know what they want. Same with Reaper though. A DAW which is easier, and comes with more content, to get you started, without having to learn everything from the ground up immediately, seems more suited for a beginner to me.

I Agree. But if the question is about spending money on MTotal or Komplete, Komplete is the best choice. It may not be needed now, but its value for money.