KVR Audio

silente · Post by **silente** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:42 pm

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youlean wrote:OK, here is the first try to fix this AU crash.
Please download this version and tell me if it is still crashing. Use this only if you couldn't load/validate AU in your DAW.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1lXwA ... sp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1lXwAlPSiGKRmRaRnJoZ0RXdjQ/view?usp=sharing)

Validates and works here, OS X 10.11.6 in Logic 10.2.4 and Digital Performer 9.02. All previous builds had crashed validation. Thanks!

mutantdog · Post by **mutantdog** » Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:50 pm

I'm using this plugin on basically every project now (Win 10, Live 9.7, 64-bit). Genuinely this is one of the most useful analysis tools i have at my disposal. There are a few issues i've noticed though. First, regardless of previous settings, when i open a project with this already in it, the max peak setting always resets to -1.00. Second, if i change the internal Live settings from 96kHz to 44.1 internal processing & from 24-bit record to 16-bit (i can't be more specific which of these two changes is the culprit since i tend to do both together) YLM seems to jump up several dB and remain like that unless i reload the project. Finally, changing the loudness algorithm when set in timecode makes it forget everything, even if i return to the one i was previously using.

A few requests i'd like to make also. Ideally it would be great to be able to change the default settings so that it opens up exactly how i want it each time, secondly (and this is a minor one) EBU R128 +5dB would be a nice addition as this corresponds to the common replaygain standard used by Foobar2000 and (i believe) iTunes. Finally (and this is not something i tend to request often), i'd like to be able to make it smaller than it will currently go down to, perhaps an option for a minimal interface with just the graph and the three main values would be an idea.

Anyway, once again... Top plugin, well deserving of its winning status. I look forward to any further developments or products.

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:56 pm

I don't think that EBU-128 +5 is "standard" (-23 +5 = -18LUFS).
iTunes uses -16LUFS, Youtube currently shoots for -14LUFS

I've said it before, I say it again.
EBU R-128 is but a preset of the ITU-R BS.1770-x backbone (reference -23LUFS/LUKS, maximum ceiling -1dBTP).

Why not use the ITU-R BS-1770-x settings? (read: absolute scale, not relative)

mutantdog · Post by **mutantdog** » Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:13 am

Well, I've been using EBU-128 in relative scale and tend to find that -(integrated value - 5) pretty accurately corresponds to the replaygain reduction in Foobar2000 (having just checked the prefs it does mention iTunes soundcheck as being -16 as opposed to RG being -18).

Spotify seems to average around -14 too, thinking about it. So yeah, i guess there is no standard as such, just me wanting to save some mental arithmetic.

I haven't really checked any of the others since this seems to work for me quite well (and the aforementioned forgetting everything if i change it problem) but i shall certainly give it a look.

Guess i should do a little reading on the different types. Any recommendations?

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:34 am

The AESTD1005.1.16-09 document and maybe check out Nugen Audio's Master Check for "currently proposed standards/limitations".

Also... Try to use the absolute scale in Youlean, not the relative. The latter needs a reference level adjustment

samplerbanker · Post by **samplerbanker** » Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:34 pm

64-bit VST3 version crashes Cubase 9 on Win 10.

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:20 pm

Are there some news on the "Wavelab issues" front as well?
Unless you're in the middle of your NAMM preparations.....

Youlean · Post by **Youlean** » Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:26 pm

mutantdog wrote:I'm using this plugin on basically every project now (Win 10, Live 9.7, 64-bit). Genuinely this is one of the most useful analysis tools i have at my disposal. There are a few issues i've noticed though. First, regardless of previous settings, when i open a project with this already in it, the max peak setting always resets to -1.00. Second, if i change the internal Live settings from 96kHz to 44.1 internal processing & from 24-bit record to 16-bit (i can't be more specific which of these two changes is the culprit since i tend to do both together) YLM seems to jump up several dB and remain like that unless i reload the project. Finally, changing the loudness algorithm when set in timecode makes it forget everything, even if i return to the one i was previously using.

A few requests i'd like to make also. Ideally it would be great to be able to change the default settings so that it opens up exactly how i want it each time, secondly (and this is a minor one) EBU R128 +5dB would be a nice addition as this corresponds to the common replaygain standard used by Foobar2000 and (i believe) iTunes. Finally (and this is not something i tend to request often), i'd like to be able to make it smaller than it will currently go down to, perhaps an option for a minimal interface with just the graph and the three main values would be an idea.

Anyway, once again... Top plugin, well deserving of its winning status. I look forward to any further developments or products.

Thanks. There are some bugs and I am fixing them as we speak. You can expect many new features after NAMM.

Youlean · Post by **Youlean** » Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:28 pm

samplerbanker wrote:64-bit VST3 version crashes Cubase 9 on Win 10.

Does it crashes it every time or sometime? I will update VST3 version using latest Steinberg SDK so issue might be fixed in the next version... (I will post it in a couple of days)

Youlean · Post by **Youlean** » Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:29 pm

Compyfox wrote:Are there some news on the "Wavelab issues" front as well?
Unless you're in the middle of your NAMM preparations.....

Sorry, I didn't have time to look at it in detail. I will look at it after NAMM. Currently I am preparing for USA VISA interview.

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:21 pm

Fair enough - I got a lot of alternatives to keep me busy/company for the time being. But I'm definitely looking forward to future updates.

samplerbanker · Post by **samplerbanker** » Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:09 pm

youlean wrote:
samplerbanker wrote:64-bit VST3 version crashes Cubase 9 on Win 10.
Does it crashes it every time or sometime? I will update VST3 version using latest Steinberg SDK so issue might be fixed in the next version... (I will post it in a couple of days)

I put it on my Control Room insert and it loads during Cubase startup - freezes every time during Cubase start, repeatable.

Removed Youlean and everything is back to normal.

Pls.fix.

Youlean · Post by **Youlean** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:50 am

New version is up!

v1.0.5:

Added macOS installer.
Fixed settings not sticking after project reload.
Fixed jump when changing window size with mouse wheel.
Improved scrolling with histogram control.
macOS stability improvements.
Minor graphical glitches fixes.

Youlean · Post by **Youlean** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:52 am

samplerbanker wrote: Does it crashes it every time or sometime? I will update VST3 version using latest Steinberg SDK so issue might be fixed in the next version... (I will post it in a couple of days)

I put it on my Control Room insert and it loads during Cubase startup - freezes every time during Cubase start, repeatable.

Removed Youlean and everything is back to normal.

Pls.fix.[/quote]
Please try new version. I have updated VST3 to the latest Steinberg SDK.

Youlean · Post by **Youlean** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:18 pm

Sorry for broken installer on mac. It is fixed now!

Youlean Loudness Meter 2 - V2.5.10 - November 10, 2024 update