Camel Audio ceasing sales? [Update: CA acquired by Apple]

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matteogk wrote:Yesterday I finally decided to launch Alchemy 1.5 after a long silence with it, and... it sounds amazing.
Still I don't understand why those Camel guys that had such a broad users number, decided to give this gem exclusively to the very limited Logic users base... Oh, I know, money... but what about music? What about the fantastic adventure to be the owner of your project and develope it and share it worldwide with an enthusiastic users community on your side creating music? I still do not understand them...
Apple ships every Mac with Garage Band and all updates are free for everyone who bought a Mac in the past year or two. The purchase of Garage Band, Main Stage or Logic for everyone else is way less expensive than Alchemy used to be. And from what I gather, the copy protection the AppStore provides may be more effective than what Camel Audio could on their own.

I'd like to see the numbers but they definitely have a LOT of potential customers for whom Alchemy is just a download away, they MAY have more actual customers by now and they MAY have more honest, paying customers than before.

They can progress more quickly development-wise because they don't have to support multiple formats on two platforms, they may have an actual budget to pay multiple sound designers in parallel.

So in a way, I can understand their decision. Emagic way back made the same decision and things looked no way near as positive for them as they do now. I was really mad at them at the time, too.

But I think for the Camel guys, it's more of an up-trade. They used to have few specialist passionate customers on two platforms, now they have a lot of diverse customers on one platform.

It's a shame for users of DP, Live, Tracktion, Maschine and all the other AU hosts that they get cut off even though providing an AU version would probably not slow down development progress in the former Camel team and probably wouldn't require any compromises technology-wise.
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It's a shame for users of DP, Live, Tracktion, Maschine and all the other AU hosts that they get cut off even though providing an AU version would probably not slow down development progress in the former Camel team and probably wouldn't require any compromises technology-wise.
That's not true: they only have to buy MainStage 3 ($20, I think), and they can access it via IOC Midi.

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Come on, don't you think selling something significant to THE Apple would feel like a giant feather in your cap? Even if you're not a huge fanboi, it's gotta be a pretty big rush, finances of the deal aside.

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FLWrd wrote:
It's a shame for users of DP, Live, Tracktion, Maschine and all the other AU hosts that they get cut off even though providing an AU version would probably not slow down development progress in the former Camel team and probably wouldn't require any compromises technology-wise.
That's not true: they only have to buy MainStage 3 ($20, I think), and they can access it via IOC Midi.
I have a Macbook that was given to me , I might check Mainstage3 out. Thanks . I'm a PC user so I have all my Alchemy stuff backed up . I'm just curious about Logic/Mainstage3/Alchemy vs Camel/PC/Alchemy and its differences .

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Soon... I seem to have lost my installer for Camel Phat! I still have the Camel Space installer, but what to do about Phat? Am I going to be tied to using a broken Yosemite install forever, or at least when I want to use Camel Phat?

I still have the Camel .VST files, but they don't work when copied into the VST directory on my El Capitan install. I can insert them into a chain, but there's no graphic nor any sound. Help?

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DJMaytag wrote:Soon... I seem to have lost my installer for Camel Phat! I still have the Camel Space installer, but what to do about Phat? Am I going to be tied to using a broken Yosemite install forever, or at least when I want to use Camel Phat?

I still have the Camel .VST files, but they don't work when copied into the VST directory on my El Capitan install. I can insert them into a chain, but there's no graphic nor any sound. Help?
I lost camel space....ouch!
I was hoping to get this in Logic.....still waiting.

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Yup. The old girl is still rolling.

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"A family member might have needed hospital care that would have been unaffordable otherwise". Ermm NO. Camel were based in the UK so hospital care, despite the Tories best efforts to gut it, would have been accessible and affordable. I'd say they got offered a shitload of money and took it, and went off round the world. Not the first who succumbed to a suitcase of $$$$$$$$.

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tony Smyth wrote:"A family member might have needed hospital care that would have been unaffordable otherwise". Ermm NO. Camel were based in the UK so hospital care, despite the Tories best efforts to gut it, would have been accessible and affordable. I'd say they got offered a shitload of money and took it, and went off round the world. Not the first who succumbed to a suitcase of $$$$$$$$.
Ben , as far as I know, still works for Apple. I'd imagine getting a nice buyout, in addition to earning money to still develop his baby (and maybe other things), was a little more attractive than pissing all the money away, travelling :shrug:

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He donated all the cash to Greenpeace

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I picked up a MBP a few months ago, the first Mac I've owned in well over a decade. I mostly got it to facilitate collaboration with several friends who only use Logic. Life got busy, I still haven't got round to buying Logic, but I'm looking forward to getting up and running with it and finally having Alchemy back again.
Incomplete list of my gear: 1/8" audio input jack.

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I hear that Apple is in talks with Behringer to acquire their new DM12 hardware synth this spring. If you don't have an Apple computer, your DM12 will no longer power on starting September 1st. :P

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quantum7 wrote:I hear that Apple is in talks with Behringer to acquire their new DM12 hardware synth this spring. If you don't have an Apple computer, your DM12 will no longer power on starting September 1st. :P
I get the joke, but in reality Apple would never buy a piece of shit like that.

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